Talk:2006 Lebanon War

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Hezbollah Claim is only 38 causalities[edit]

Hezbollah Claim is only 38 causalities There is the Source from Official Hezbollah News Agency http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/catpage.php?frid=46 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.188.237.102 (talk) 07:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

The list you refer to is not comprehensive and not even unique to the 2006 war. It includes bomber Ahmad Qassir who destroyed the IDF Tyre HQ in 1982. It is just a sample of especially noteworthy heroes.
A more comprehensive list can be found in the HA affiliated Bint Jbeil website: [Martyrs of Truthful Promise (4 pages)] and: [Martyrs of Bint Jbeil] There are some individuals with multiple entries and some entries with multiple individuals. It is also unclear whether we should include the six martyrs from the HA-affiliated Islamic Health Society (الهيئة الصحية الاسلامية). Hence I can give no precise number but I would estimate that there are at least 140 unique named and pictured Hizbullah combatants who died in the 2006 war. Note however that neither this list make any claim to be comprehensive. HA deputy Qomati repeatedly declared that around 250 HA fighters were killed in the war.
I will remove your mistaken edits and add sources. You have already violated the 1RR rule once. Don’t repeat it.
Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

That's the only official claim from Hezbollah http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/catpage.php?frid=46 Come from only official No exist place when said Hezbollah said they lost 250, so you talk about "Hezbollah Claim" who no exist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.68.218.162 (talk) 17:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

This is what the Associated Press source cited says:
"The latest Lebanese and AP counts include 250 Hezbollah fighters that the group's leaders now say died during Israel's intense air, ground and sea bombardments in Lebanon -- more than triple the 70 they acknowledged during the war."[1]
That is enough for this article to say that Hezbollah claimed that 250 fighters died per the WP:V policy. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
We should note that claims from the fighting parties have less weight than those from independent sources, as they are usually propaganda. --Wickey-nl (talk) 17:00, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Can we finally throw out the Somalis?[edit]

There is a paragraph about 720 Somalis travelling to Lebanon to fight alongside Hizbullah. 2006_Lebanon_War#Hezbollah_action The organizer is said to have been Aden Hashi Farah, the future founder of the al-Shabaab movement. Why would an Sunni Salafist al-Qaeda militant from Somalia fight side by side with Hizbullah? As if he didn't have more pressing problems at home. And why would Shiite Hizbullah agree to such support? And how was it possible for 720 Somalis to sneak out of Somalia, travel the seas and sneak into Lebanon without anybody seeing or suspecting anything. Not the Israelis and not the Lebanese. Or anybody else.

The story is so silly. Nobody believes it. It is just an embarrassment to Wikipedia.

Will anybody object if I just delete it?

Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 20:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

A leaked, not published(?) report. Rumours should not be mentioned. --Wickey-nl (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Two Israel Soldiers captured were Released[edit]

Here is a Interview with one from the Soldiers who was captured by HA and was released http://www.jerusalemonline.com/israel-news/archive/28.07.2012-news-from-israel — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogFTW (talkcontribs) 21:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

That interview was with a "survivor of the attack" i.e. not either of the two who were kidnapped (Eldad Regev and Udi Goldwasser).--William Thweatt TalkContribs 05:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

This is the video from the captured of these IDF soldiers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQ2d0IiwNo and this news agency from Israel is a interview by one of two soldiers who were captured alive by HA inside the Military vehicle http://www.jerusalemonline.com/israel-news/archive/28.07.2012-news-from-israel — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogFTW (talkcontribs) 05:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Firstly, the youtube video is just a video of the combat, not proof of life. Secondly, the interview is not "by one of the two soldiers who were captured", the article says the interview is with a "survivor of the attack". The interview also speaks of "the widow" of one of the two kidnapped soldiers which implies the soldier has been killed (hence, widow).--William Thweatt TalkContribs 06:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The interview from this Soldier in 2012 http://www.jerusalemonline.com/israel-news/archive/28.07.2012-news-from-israel is the same person who got the attack by HA in the video attack from 2006 on border, I think the confusion is from 4 guys inside the military vehicle - 2 soldiers got killed but 2 were captured and at least one was released HA Just take the bodies from others two.

The Report from Israel TV News Said "One of the soldiers who survived the attack and Wash The video" He mean this video( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQ2d0IiwNo )

It's not enough evidence at least one from the two was released ?

I'm not 100% sure anyway I just provide you the links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LogFTW (talkcontribs) 07:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

A radical proposal[edit]

Let's remove all so-called "supporters" from the infobox. This was a war between Israel and Hezbollah, and if we are to include everyone who somehow contributed to the war, we would have dozens of small militias on the Lebanese side. Let's keep it simple and correct. Anyone agree/disagree? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 10:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Hezbollah Strength[edit]

The infobox currently reads "Several hundreds" for Hezbollah Strength. Seems dubious, also considering previously the article mentioned thousands. The references are a random unnotable news article that doesn't say much anyway, and a book that's inaccessible online. Anyone has better references or info? 217.132.221.42 (talk) 12:49, 17 June 2014 (UTC)