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Alexander Imich[edit]

Since Jiroemon Kimura was excluded from 2013 there is no reason for Imich to be listed here. Thoughts? Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 02:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@Taylor Trescott: I'm new to the RY pages but Imich has over 10 pages so see no reason not to include. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, as did Kimura. It was determined at Talk:2013 that if the death is notable and not the person, then they are excluded. Imich is mainly known for his age and has little worldwide notability. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 19:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
It has been agreed that oldest people and last survivors should not be in included in RY articles. Jim Michael (talk) 00:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Technically, Alexander Imich did have over 9 foreign-language Wikipedia articles before death. However, he seems only notable for being long-lived, which suggests that his death should not be listed in a year article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
He is known for more then just living a long life. He was a chemist and parapsychologist. He lived and worked in Poland for most of his life, had a report published in a German journal. he didn't come to the United States until 1951 and did more work in the United States. If he was only notable for living a long life the he shouldn't be added but he has done something with his life and their shouldn't be a reason to exclude him. Redsky89 (talk) 06:09, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
The vast majority of his not-English articles weren't written until after his 99th birthday, if he'd been truly notable in his field it is reasonable to expect that they would have been written earlier. This is a strong indication that his notability rests more on his longevity than his work in parapsychology or chemistry. As noted above previous consensus has been that persons noted solely or largely for their longevity do not merit inclusion. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 06:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose inclusion per above. Calidum Talk To Me 14:16, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Is that really your best argument? his 99th birthday was in 2002. Wikipedia was launched in 2001 I highly doubt that every notable person had their pages made in every language within a year of the sites launch. Redsky89 (talk) 04:25, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, my error, that should be his 109th birthday. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:06, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Skye McCole Bartusiak[edit]

Meets the WP:RY minimum but seems to be too minor an entertainment personality to be one of the most internationally and historically significant deaths of the year (even given the relatively low standard). Exclude DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 11:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

10 articles is a pretty high threshold... but honestly don't care one way or the other in this case. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Derby here. Tragic she died so young but her roles were fairly minor. Calidum Talk To Me 14:03, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Commonwealth Games[edit]

Should the 2014 Commonwealth Games be listed? Pretty major event, 4000 athletes, 71 nations. Starts tomorrow. GedUK  08:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Previous Games don't seem to have cracked a mention. No idea of the reasoning behind that. HiLo48 (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Seems to fit the inclusion criteria though, not annual, is international transcontinental. I'd add it now, but it may as well be done tomorrow when it starts and be added to current. GedUK  08:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Its exclusion is based on the Comm Games not being a global event. The reasoning is that only 2 sporting events, the Olympic Games (summer and winter) and the football World Cup are the only 2 sporting events which are sufficiently notable on a global scale i.e. they will make be of greater than just sporting interest across the globe. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 10:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hmmm, I don't think that's really true though. But if that's the consensus then OK. GedUK  11:39, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
In terms of media coverage, the Commonwealth Games have hardly been reported by the media from non-Commonwealth nations, unless any world record is made, as none of them is eligible to participate the games, thus vast majority of people in non-Commonwealth nations do not even know such sporting events exist.---What can I do for someone?- (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
That's a bit arbitrary. The list of events for this year already includes several that got none or close to no media coverage in my country (they certainly had no impact), and an awful distortion of over coverage of events in Ukraine/Crimea/Russia and in the middle east. (And, of course, being a past British colony, the USA is eligible to join the Commonwealth and participate in the Commonwealth Games if they wanted. I'll bet that would make a difference to reporting here!) HiLo48 (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
The Commonwealth Games is clearly a large multi-national event that is worth a mention, a quarter of the countries in the world are eligible to attend, the fact the nobody in the USA has heard of it is not a reason not to mention it. A few of the current entries dont have global media coverage or interest, perhaps a FAQ is needed of exactly what is the inclusion criteria is so it can be challenged. MilborneOne (talk) 21:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I do not think that USA would like to take part in it, as they never consider themselves as a part of Commonwealth ever since its independence. Anyway, if you would like to include the Commonwealth Games in years' articles, someone may ask "if" over something else. For example, there will be 2014 Asian Games, which is also "a large multi-national event" with 13,000 athletes from 45 Asian countries, in which more than 4 billions of people, more than a half of the entire earth, reside, but only covered by the media from the countries which take part in, and hardly known to the rest of the world. And I do not think it makes years' articles better by including either one of those or both, expecting edit wars followed by, based on each editor's "if". Therefore, the current inclusion/exclusion setting over the sporting events should be maintained, thus Commonwealth Games should be excluded---What can I do for someone?- (talk) 06:32, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. 2014 in sports is the appropriate place for sporting events of less than global interest/importance. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 08:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Marilyn Burns[edit]

I've removed because although she passes the WP:RY minimum (just) there is no real indication of international notability, her film career was very limited and any notability seems to rest on a s ingle cult film. Almost all the non-English articles are clones of the English one and/or are stubs. None seem to have any local source and most just have IMDB and the same same English obituary. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Most of the non-English articles are quite short (one paragraph and a filmography list). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 05:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Malfunction[edit]

Does anyone know how to make this work?

Deaths
January · February · March · April · May · June · July · August

It won't take you to the death section for August; instead it takes you to the Predicted and scheduled events section for August. GoodDay (talk) 20:13, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

There are two August's above. Try
Deaths
January · February · March · April · May · June · July · August
(This may be more trouble than it's worth.) — Arthur Rubin (talk) 06:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Brian G. Hutton[edit]

He squeaks by the criteria with 10 articles pre-death, but I don't see the worldwide notability of this guy. He didn't have very big acting roles, his career wasn't widely acclaimed, and his non-English articles save for ilwiki and dewiki's are little more than one sentence. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 21:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. The non-English articles are stubs or clones with no native language input. Notability rests largely on a single film which does not appear sufficient to justify inclusion here. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:15, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done - not internationally notable. Jim Michael (talk) 03:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Catalan self-determination referendum[edit]

I don't think it meets WP:RY, as:

National elections are not usually included unless they represent a significant change in the country (e.g., a nation's first election). Some elections gain international significance for other reasons and this can be demonstrated through several international news sources.

If it wins, it might be sufficiently significant, but failed "self-determination" elections have as much lasting significance as the 3 or 5 times Puerto Rico has requested redetermination of its status — that is to say, none at all, as they never preferred a status other than their present status as a colony (ahem, "Commonwealth") of the US. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. IF the referendum goes for self-determination then this issue can be revisited. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:11, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. --Kuzwa (talk) 01:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Scottish Independence Vote[edit]

The Scottish vote is globally notable regardless of the outcome. It has been covered in the national news in Japan, South Africa, Australia, Canada, Britain, and Brazil. That far surpasses the three-continent rule. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:53, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Seconded. Calidum Talk To Me 05:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Disagree. As above for the Catalan referendum. As there is no change this is merely local politics. WP:RY states: "The event must have a demonstrated, international significance". No change=no significance, it is merely news which is insufficient for inclusion. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:26, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
This one actually seems a little more likely than Catalan, but no change=no significance. There apparently are plans to devolve more authority to local parliaments and councils, but I cannot find reliable sources attributing them to this referendum. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
The vote belongs in 2014 in the United Kingdom. --Kuzwa (talk) 01:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC)