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Dead link[edit]

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

--JeffGBot (talk) 03:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Updated with new link http://www.thecgf.com/media/games/2014/G2014_CCF_Vol1-3.pdf in both articles. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 01:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Blogs in External links[edit]

Does anyone see any good reason why the recent edits by Lazenbee ought to be an exception to the exclusion of blogs, as described at item 11 of WP:ELNO? His edits have already been reverted a number of times, and he is nearing the WP:3RR mark. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:32, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

As there is no mention of opposition or controversy (unlike the entry on Vancouver Olympics: Vancouver_Olympics#Concerns_and_controversies) in this article and as both these sites are less personal blog sites and more sources of news (albeit with an anti-Games bias), I think they should be left. After all, WP:ELNO states that "one should generally avoid" links to blogs - but avoid doesn't mean never. Lazenbee (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
If the anti-Games protests are notable enough (see WP:UNDUE), then they might deserve a sentence or two in the actual article (not in ext links). But we need proper refs, per WP:RS: ie. no blogs thank you. Has there been any significant broadsheet coverage for example? --Mais oui! (talk) 17:59, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Both blogs that were linked to have a number of stories, some from broadsheets, some from academic journals, that outline both discontent with the Games and mega-events generally. (For example, from a broadsheet: The Real Legacy of the Games; from the BBC there is this: No evidence of games benefits. There is more, and from a diverse variety of sources. Glasgow has an unfortunate history of boosterism and collusion between politicians and the press, so as with the European City of Culture 1990, dissent tends to come from more marginal sources - in this case, blogs. However, if blogs are unacceptable then some discussion of Margaret Jaconelli and the Accord Centre would be merited within the article I think.Lazenbee (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
I have no problem whatsoever with mentioning dissent, just as long as it is made clear that it is a minority viewpoint. The Herald and the BBC are fine as reliable ext refs. See WP:VERIFY for how to reference. (Or just put in the raw http and someone will pop along with a bot in a while.) The key thing is to write content from a neutral point of view, and to be balanced. --Mais oui! (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
ok, fair enough - so just to be clear, do you think this should be mentioned in its own section, like "concerns and controversies"? thanks Lazenbee (talk) 19:23, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Host city location[edit]

The infobox has "Glasgow, Scotland". This is consistent with the 1970 and 1986 Games. There appears to be insufficient reason to add "United Kingdom". The slow edit war on this issue is getting tiresome so this needs to be sorted here otherwise semi-protection may be required. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 23:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Games hosted in England and Wales also include the reference "United Kingdom". I don't see why games hosted by Scotland should be any different. Regardless of the outcome of the referendum next year, Scotland will be part of the UK during the games and was for the previous games. 95.150.108.241 (talk) 23:12, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Commonwealth Games are, and have always been, for teams from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc. The fact that those countries are part of the United Kingdom is irrelevant in this context. The reference should also be removed from the Cardiff and Manchester Games. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 21:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
The teams represent Nations, not Sovereign countries. As the United Kingdom is the sovereign state, I believe it is factually important to include at least one explicit reference to this fact otherwise it implies something that is not factually true. As a compromise, I see that the 1970 and the 1986 articles make a reference in the opening paragraph, would that be appropriate? 95.150.72.234 (talk) 23:03, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I will go ahead with what was proposed above. 95.150.72.144 (talk) 21:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Field hockey competitions and participating nations[edit]

Can we please get a page setup for the field hockey competitions within the 2014 Commonwealth Games as all teams and groups have been confirmed for both the men's and women's competition and also get a section up showing all the participation that participating nations that will be competing in Glasgow in July. (90.197.242.20 (talk) 15:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)) P.S don't forget pages for the opening and closing ceremonies. (94.197.120.148 (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC))

Use of CGF code in medal table[edit]

Hi, just wondering if we could use the same format in the medals table as the Olympics (see below for example)

Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1  Scotland (SCO)

--MSalmon (talk) 18:23, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

That's what people went with last Games so I see no reason why not! SFB 12:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
They didn't go with it last Games because I was the one who added them in --MSalmon (talk) 18:52, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Cool. I see no reason why that shouldn't be the default from now on! SFB 10:06, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Fiji WILL BE represented at the 2014 Commonwealth Games[edit]

Fiji will be represented at the 2014 Commonwealth Games. - (203.211.71.228 (talk) 07:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC))

Do you have any references to support this? As far as I know, Fiji are still suspended from the Commonwealth due to the coup in 2006. Ravendrop 08:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

The Gambia will NOT be represented[edit]

The Gambia will not be represented, as The Gambia was withdrawn from the Commonwealth in October 2013. - (203.211.71.228 (talk) 07:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC))

The Gambia is not listed and its note about withdrawal is already in the article. Ravendrop 08:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Participating countries[edit]

Could we please have a map showing all the countries and territories that are taking part in the 2014 Commonwealth Games in line with previous Maps that been placed on pages for previous Commonwealth Games to show which parts of the world are taking part, all that needs to be done is take out The Gambia from the 2010 map and that should be about right, thanks (90.207.53.225 (talk) 21:05, 20 July 2014 (UTC))

I have added a map onto the sectio but it's from the 2010 Delhi Games through the only modifications is needed to the map is to just to remove The Gambia and change the location from Delhi to Glasgow otherwise that is correct map showing all the countries and territories taking part in the 2014 Games! (90.207.161.97 (talk) 08:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC))
Isn't anyone going to update the map I would have thought it would have been done by now? (90.207.161.97 (talk) 17:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC))
Yes check.svg Done Zell Faze (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the map but the location is not centred on Glasgow so please can it be changed so it is correct! (90.207.161.97 (talk) 14:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC))

I placed it as close as I could given my knowledge of the area and the resolution of the map. If someone else can place it closer I'd love that. @90.207.161.97, Please remember that we are all volunteers here. There is no deadline. Zell Faze (talk) 23:40, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Templates for Nations at the 2014 Commonwealth Games[edit]

I've posted most of the templates for event results for the Commonwealth Games in my sandbox. Most of the credit goes to Sportsfan 1234 for creating most of the stuff. JoshMartini007 (talk) 22:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

Shall we use United Kingdom in the infobox of this article, aswell as all the other Commonwealth Game articles, where the UK is host? IMHO, we should be consistent across these articles, either listing the sovereign state (i.e Canada, New Zeland, Australia, United Kingdom, etc), or we don't. What's your (other editors) view? GoodDay (talk) 10:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

"United Kingdom" looks a bit redundant to me. And given that Scotland competes as a separate entity at the Games, it seem a bit odd to use the Infobox to try to emphasise that it's not. It's not as if medals are awarded to "Scotland, United Kingdom". Everyone seems to understand just the name Scotland on its own. HiLo48 (talk) 10:50, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
I just figured we had Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Victoria, British Columbia, Canada & Manchester, England, United Kingdom, so why not Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom. GoodDay (talk) 18:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
The first two examples are irrelevant, because the states and provinces of Australia and Canada don't compete as separate entities at the Games. My earlier post addresses your concerns. Do you want to address those comments? HiLo48 (talk) 18:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
I understand your original post & have removed United Kingdom from the intros & infoboxes of the Commonwealth Games articles with host cities in the UK. As you've said, the United Kingdom's 4 constituent countries compete as seperate teams in these games. Therefore, this should be reflected in the intros & infoboxes, concerning host cities. GoodDay (talk) 18:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Weightlifting - Chika Amalaha[edit]

From this it states that Chika Amalaha has been suspended for failing a drugs test. Has she been stripped of her gold medal too? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I think they are waiting on the results from the B sample. If that is positive too then she will be stripped of the medal. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 09:24, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
BBC Hamish59 (talk) 09:49, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks both. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


Complaints[edit]

I notice that we now have two complaints added to the article, neither appears to be particularly notable in the big scheme of things. Perhaps we should have a list of "Compliments" to balance it out or just delete them as undue weight. MilborneOne (talk) 11:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I have deleted it. These sections are unacceptable. They purely attract negative POV, which is obviously not what we want. I believe WP:CRITS addresses this perfectly. HiLo48 (talk) 11:13, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Medal table[edit]

This section is poorly edited and repeats the ranking structure regarding the medal's value. Panhead2014 (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry cant make sense of your point, you need to explain better what you are on about, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 18:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

It's okay, I removed the repetition. Panhead2014 (talk) 23:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)