Talk:24 Hour Party People

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Moved from article[edit]

Moved this para from article:

A brief description of the movie might well consist of the words "Sex and Drugs and Rock And Roll." (cf Ian Dury)'

doesn't seem particularly useful or encyclopedic. --Lexor 11:30, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Real footage[edit]

Is it true that the movie is "occasionally intercut with real footage taken at the time of the events depicted".

I think all the concert scenes were played by actors. Or what else is meant by "real footage"? Captain-c 16:22, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The hang-gliding footage is from the original 70's story. --Robert Merkel 05:58, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Although the audience were played by actors, there was actual live footage of artists such as the Sex Pistols, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Iggy Pop etc. Cnwb 05:24, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Here's some intercut footage yon diggedy:[edit]

The Sex Pistols scene is intercut with real footage at the start. And New Order are shown in a stadium playing World in Motion. That's real, intercut stuff. Think there might be more though...

I think that there was some real footage of The Fall as well. I know that Mark E. Smith was in there for real in the present, but there might have been some original footage aswell.

Wheel of Fortune[edit]

Maybe this is a case of false memory, but I'm sure I remember years ago (as a little nipper) someone presenting Wheel of Fortune who, now I think of it, vaguely resembles Anthony H. - our article suggests Nicky Campbell was first, though I distinctly remember whoever this was not having a Scottish accent. Is there any truth at all to the scene which puts Coogan as Wilson presenting WoF, or was it concocted for the film? (I have no doubt that Coogan's lines, however, were contrived for it) 15:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I believe Wilson tried out for WoF (hence the scene) but Campbell got the job instead. Cpc464 11:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I would love to mention this, but I can't remember her surname as all I know is her forename is Terri, the hostess who appears in that sequence is best known by the media for dating Simon Cowell. Willirennen 16:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Film poster[edit]

I've never seen the poster shown in the article before - usually the one used when referencing the film is this one: http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/31/05/32m.jpg or this one: http://www.deviantbrainwave.org/images/24hour.jpg. Should we change it? Cpc464 11:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes! Principally, because this is not a film poster--it is a DVD cover. Moreover, it has its source URL on the image. Sloppy and uglyReimelt 00:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I was bold and did it.Reimelt 00:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Fourth Wall breech?[edit]

In one scene featuring Howard Devoto (played by Martin Hancock), the real Devoto, an extra in the scene, turns to the camera and says "I definitely don't remember this happening".

Is this an example of breaking the fourth wall? Colossus 86 13:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It is, but Coogan/Tony Wilson is breaking the fourth wall for much of the film anyway. Jooler 15:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that only really dawned on me later! Colossus 86 18:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

comment by User:200.69.212.121 moved from article[edit]

NOTE: Not pretending to conflict with the article itself, the main character of the film is the "music" as is stated by Tony Wilson (Steve Coogan) during the film. He refers as himself as a secondary character. The biopic about his life is supposed to be a mere excuse to tell the story of certain music, and the people who made that music: Ian Curtis, Shawn Ryder, Martin Hannet, etc. - User:200.69.212.121

Last night not staged?[edit]

"The "staged" last night of The Haçienda was in fact the real last night as the club never officially closed due to police problems."

Do you mean that the club never officially closed? Or that the official reason for the club's closure was not police problems? And what connection has that got to the filming anyway? --VinceBowdren 15:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe it means that it was always intended to open again after the actual last night, so no "final night" event was held. Therefore with a near-perfect Hac recreation available, the cast, crew and friends held their own "final night" on the set (the footage from which I understand is what is used in the film). SlamTilt 08:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Biographic?[edit]

"A novelization, 24 Hour Party People, based on the screenplay for the film, was written by Tony Wilson and released in 2003 - it is perhaps the first example of someone writing a biography of themselves that is not, technically, an autobiography."

This claim is difficult to believe. Though none come to mind, I'm sure theer are authors that have included themselves in bio-fictional works; isn't Hunter Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, a blend of the real and imagined? 66.57.224.120 02:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Leslie Nielsen's "The Naked Truth" is, in essence, an excuse for gags, and has him working with Buster Keaton, studying alongside James Dean and Marlon Brando, having affairs with Brigitte Bardot and Marilyn Monroe and winning Oscars. Chuck Barris' "Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind" famously has his life as a game-show entrepreneur intercut with scenes of his apparent double-life as a CIA agent. David Niven's "The Moon's A Balloon" is a skilful mix of biographical fact and legendary Hollywood tales reimagined as happening to Niven. Clive James' "Unreliable Memoirs" is just that - tales from his life are rearranged, exaggerated, omitted or invented to suit the narrative. These are off the top of my head. They're all autobiographical stories, as is Tony Wilson's novelisation. What's with "technically"? 124.180.12.8 06:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

As well as all Gonzo journalism... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.123.174.57 (talk) 19:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd always read that remark as meaning that it's not technically an autobiography because what he's written is an adaptation of someone else's biography of himself. Those must be much rarer than fictionalised autobiographies, and it's sort-of believable that this was the first. 86.22.72.178 (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Soundtrack split[edit]

Here is the section to discuss splitting the soundtrack section into a separate article:

  • Against The film is closely identified by the music, and the music with the film. They are one and the same. It's okay to keep the soundtrack info with the article about the film. This article is not yet large enough that splitting sections is really necessary. Also, I've seen other film soundtrack articles split off or created independently of the film articles, and they generally attract few links other than from the film articles themselves. — WiseKwai 17:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, no other argumens for or against, so I'm removing the split tag. Totnesmartin 20:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)