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Name origin?[edit]
Why "4chan", rather than, say, "5chin" or "7wxyz"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.122.14 (talk) 15:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly, moot said something about this during a live streamed panel. At the time, the domain name "3chan.net" was taken, so they went for +1 of that, hence "4chan.net" (which later became ".org" because GoDaddy suspended the .net domain). The choice of 3chan.net was a reference to 2chan.net, where moot stole the imageboard source code from before putting it through AltaVista Babelfish. --benlisquareT•C•E 15:57, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
This is not a forum for general discussion of 4chan. NG101 [ t c r] 07:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Katawa Shoujo[edit]
Since Katawa Shoujo originated on 4chan, and 4chan played a large role in it's devolpment, shouldn't Katawa Shoujo be in the "See also" section? 71.75.130.191 (talk) 15:36, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Done, thanks. Someone might want to incorporate it into the main text, rather than have a single "see also", however. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:47, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Since The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra also originated on 4chan, and 4chan played a large role in it's devolpment, shouldn't The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra also be in the "See also" section? 158.223.178.246 (talk) 19:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Controversy in video game culture[edit]
This section, as it is written right now, doesn't appear to be a neutral summary of 4chan's relationship to gamergate. It uses the passive voice when discussing 4chan's involvement w/ Quinn's harassment and then switches to the active voice when talking about something that sounds laudatory (donating to a campaign). I also have serious reservations that their involvement w/ the FYC is the most "notable" connection between 4chan and gamergate. I won't tag the section w/ a POV tag just yet, as I think this can be resolved through the talk page, but I have some concerns. Protonk (talk) 14:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- There was a thorough earlier version that covered the incident from several angles, and was deleted as undue weight; you may want to help me restore the numerous reliable sources that established it as significant. WRT to TFYC, these are the only sources available I know that cover 4chan in depth, if you are aware of any others bring them here and we can use them to expand the section to what the existing references allow. Diego (talk) 16:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. I can understand the length complaint, in a way. Paper or not, the article is pretty long as it is and includes many summaries of controversies or disputes which have their own article (as gamergate does). Protonk (talk) 17:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- This needs only a brief mention and link to GamerGate. 4chan's role is peripheral in my view, and should not be given undue prominence. This has become the Donglegate incident du jour, and is being blown up out of all proportion.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. I can understand the length complaint, in a way. Paper or not, the article is pretty long as it is and includes many summaries of controversies or disputes which have their own article (as gamergate does). Protonk (talk) 17:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
2014 Murder[edit]
Added that as section, as there are now many reliable sources reporting it. Not sure what to call that section.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4chan-images-match-grisly-washington-slaying-scene-investigators-n241806 --Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:11, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Update needed -- the murder suspect surrendered this evening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:c56a:cb00:b9d6:b7e5:e7e2:b083 (talk • contribs) 06:32, November 6, 2014
Rape Capital of the Internet[edit]
There needs to be a section on the sexual violence as it is both the source and the Mecca of internet violence. Any one who opposes will have rape threats sent to them and the site glorifies and encourages violence against women. If you don's believe me then look at at the page of Anita Sarkeesian (no I am not a feminist, I think they are just as sexist as the perverted trolls) but there is a problem that needs to be addressed and it is the biggest stick in the mud and that is saying a lot from a site that is like a failed state.--106.68.66.8 (talk) 08:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- While this is definitely a hot-button issue right now, stating that a website utilized by hundreds of thousands of people all as one collective hivemind commits actions that support violence against women is absolutely asinine. Further, there are certainly no reliable sources that support taking one particular side of this extremely polarizing and ongoing incident. Saimouer (talk) 11:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC}
Remember it is from that site that Rule 34 was invented and has been controversial from day one, which includes child pornography of both boys and girls.--106.68.66.8 (talk) 05:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
- That is incorrect, "Rule 34" does not refer to underage pornography, it is instead the concept (for the lack of a better term) that pornography on every single subject exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euphoria42 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- That is factually incorrect. Child pornography is not permitted on 4chan. As stated by their (rather extensive) ruleset: "You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law." If this doesn't cover it enough, NSFW boards have this additional, far more specific rule: "Absolutely no underage content (under 18) of any sort. Violators will be issued permanent bans." [1] Beyond this, the phrase "Rape capital of the internet" is a highly editorialized statement that violates Wikipedia's neutral POV policy. There has never been a case of "rape" occurring on 4chan. Further, Rule 34, however distasteful, does not refer to underage pornography. Rule 34, as stated and sourced in Wikipedia's Rule 34 article [2] is a phenomenon by which pornography for every conceivable topic exists. It is an anecdote which is sometimes applied to drawings of TV, video game, and movie characters by pornographic artists. Saimouer (talk) 18:13, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
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