Talk:91st Missile Wing

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I linked the 91st Ops Gp to the 91st Bomb Group article. They are the same organization by lineage. However the missile squadrons were formerly those of the 455th Missile Wing and the 455th BG in WWII. IMO expansion of the 91st OG as it is constituted now needs to be expanded here, not at the 91st BG article. My addition there is going to be rudimentary at best.--Buckboard 02:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Rename soon[edit]

The three units to be renamed as missile wings are the 90th Space Wing, F.E. Warren AFB, Wyo; the 91st Space Wing, Minot AFB, ND; and the 341st Space Wing, Malmstrom AFB, Mont. These units operate the Air Force's Minuteman III ICBM fleet. [1] Will await official news story for when the name change will actually happen before moving article. --Pmsyyz (talk) 18:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Should deleted information be restored?[edit]

The following information (or most of it) was first added to this article on 15 October 2009. Although there has never been discussion on this talk page concerning it, between June and September 2010 it was removed and restored more than once. It was finally removed on 3 August 2011. The person deleting the entire section gave as a description of his action and the reason for it, "delete section. Information is dated and no longer accurate."

The material is sourced to articles in the Military Times, so it should meet reliability standards of Wikipedia. I fail to see how accurate information becomes "no longer accurate." Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a current events blog, I don't see being "dated" as justification for removal either. Because the material has been controversial in the past, unlike the prior editors, I'd like to start a discussion about whether it should be included in the article. I might point out that there was a subset of the slow motion edit war concerning whether the names of the officers involved should be included in the article.

My inclination is to Restore, particularly in view of the April 2013 relief of 17 missile officers. Relief of a wing commander in the USAF is rare enough to be notable, and so is misuse of classified material associated with nuclear weapons. I also agree with the exclusion of the officer's names on the theory that the events, not the individuals are noteable. --Lineagegeek (talk) 20:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

"Notable incidents" − In 2009 two missile officers, were charged with stealing classified missile launch technology. The classified material- a device used to detect equipment tampering in the launch facility, was taken in July 2005. The theft came to light in May 2008. The officers were allowed to resign from the Air Force in lieu of facing courts martial.[1] − − On 14 October 2009 the wing commander, as well as the 91st Maintenance Group commander, and 91st Missile Maintenance Squadron commander, were relieved of command by the commander of the 20th Air Force for loss of confidence in their ability to command. The reliefs followed incidents including the crash of a truck carrying missile components on 31 August 2009, a similar truck crash in July 2008 and a failed wing nuclear surety inspection. Colonel Ferdinand Stoss was named the new wing commander; he had previously been serving as vice commander of the 90th Missile Wing at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming.[2]

These incidents are historical facts and were covered by the press. * Restore * Bwmoll3 (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Restore: valid, notable information sourced to WP:RS news sources. Anything else smacks of censorship. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Lineagegeek (talk) 12:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

RB-45s in Korea[edit]

The narrative concerning RB-45s in Korea is a paraphrase of Knaack, Marcelle Size (1988). Encyclopedia of US Air Force Aircraft and Missile Systems. Vol. 2, Post-World War II Bombers 1945-1973. Washington, DC: Office of Air Force History. p. 89. ISBN 0-912799-59-5. . However, Knaack identifies the detachment of RB-45Cs as coming from Tactical Air Command, not the 91st wing (omitted from the article). --Lineagegeek (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ MacPherson, James, "Officers accused of Minot theft allowed to quit", Military Times, 14 January 2010.
  2. ^ The misconduct by wing members included three officers who fell asleep on duty in July 2008 while in possession of classified components containing out-of-date missile launch codes for Minuteman III ICBMs and an airman who left a safe containing missile operation precedures unsecured for an entire night. Hoffman, Michael, "Wing commander, 2 others fired at Minot", Military Times, 15 October 2009.