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Can anyone explain the gibberish caption?[edit]

There's a caption under the photograph of the interior of the Cathedral, which reads "At 2:27 p.m. on the 23rd of June 1976 in the nave of the Vézelay basilica, Father Hugues Delautre o.f.m. made an appointment with the sun, at this precise instant in culmination above the earth, in order that its light manifests to him the secrete of the edifice." I confess that I can't make much sense of this. Can someone explain or edit this? Bricology (talk) 19:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Tympanum: wrong illustration[edit]

While the text describes the original tympanum which sits over the gate that's nowadays inside the church, the picture shows the tympanum of the outer entrance, which was added in the nineteenth century under supervision of Viollet Le Duc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.153.33.202 (talk) 07:16, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Whew, I thought it was I who was confused! Yes, there is an inner and and outer Western porch sculpture program, the latter a retrospective addition (possibly to protect the former)...Le Duc liked to ventriloquize/conterfeit the past (one of my teachers was on a team that identified his "additions-cum-repairs" to sculptures on the facade of Notre Dame de Paris.) The inner one is the original statement to be read as an entry path into the church. (I also agree with the following comment; I was there on St. John's Day a few years ago, and it is impressive, but it shouldn't reduce one's capacity for rational comment to gibberish...)96.233.98.79 (talk) 14:15, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

This does not sound very much like encyclopedia to me, especialy the 'God and his mystery' and the last sentence:

"To understand the meaning of this objective sign, Father Hugues Delautre refers to the 12th-century texts (Suger, Peter the Venerable, Honorius of Autun) and long inhabits the monument with the symbolic mentality of that time for which sense reveals itself from sensitive signs through the anagogical method (literally ascent towards the uncreated) where the look goes beyond the reality of the sign to reach the invisible, i.e. God and his mystery. Letting himself be progressively informed by the Vézelay light, he so concludes:" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.211.202.131 (talk) 14:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The Western judgement portal at Vezelay is 19th century, but the narthex, although a little reworked by Viollet-le-Duc, is contemporary with the 12th century portal, meaning that it has always been inside the building. I believe that there was an original judgement portal on the West front that was destroyed during the French revolution, but there's no evidence as to its appearance. Mattymootoo (talk) 15:27, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

All the images used have shown the right tympanum for a good long time. Johnbod (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Abbey of La Madaleine or Abbey of La Madeleine?[edit]

I hesitate to correct La Madaleine into La Madeleine, since I do not know the reason for `La Madaleine', but it strikes me as incorrect. La Madaleine occurs twice on the page, one of which in the title and therefore the url-address, La Madeleine occurs at least 4 times in the English text. However, if I change La Madaleine into La Madeleine, the url should also change and I'm not sure how all this works. Anyone have an insight? Frank W (talk) 11:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Frank, your comment has spurred me on to doing something I had been planning to do for ages, that is to say, I have boldly, if not high-handedly, reverted the name of the article to what it was previously, which is to say, Vézelay Abbey. The name you queried was wrong in several ways, as you point out: it was mis-spelt ("Madeleine" is the right spelling), and it is not what the place is most commonly called in English (even if it is "La Madeleine" in French) which is where the article should be. As far as I'm aware that is Vézelay Abbey, and the previous re-naming was an error on the part of the editor that moved it. I'm sorry for not discussing it first. Please see WP:RM and open a discussion according to the instructions there if you would still like a full discussion on where this page should be, but wherever that is, it is most certainly not at its previous name. Jsmith1000 (talk) 13:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)