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Query[edit]

There are some vizirs, etc. buildings and places names in their honor that use phrase al-Ablaq. Etymologically, is this related? 7&6=thirteen () 15:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I did put in the Category of Arabic loanwords. Not sure if this qualifies for List of Arabic loanwords in English, however. 7&6=thirteen () 17:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done 7&6=thirteen () 21:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Ablaq[edit]

Can somebody put in the phonetic pronunciation of this word. Not having taken a class in Islamic architecture I've only read it, not heard it. While I think I know how it is pronounced, it would be just a guess. This is especially problematical with words borrowed from a foreign language. {{Help}} 7&6=thirteen () 16:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, sorry i can't help. WikiProject Islam might be able to though. Cheers, Face-smile.svg benzband (talk) 19:52, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello 7&6=thirteen. This type of question involving specialized knowledge to answer is not well suited to a helpme requested which calls a small number of volunteers who monitor the category. It's always possible that you might luck out but it's much better to place such a request in a targeted forum. I suggest you post your request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arab world. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:38, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 10:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Pisan monuments and what's the difference?[edit]

The text asserts that Pisan monuments "used ablaq, not simple “black and white in revetment”" Who is being quoted in this quote? What's the difference between ablaq and a revetment in black and white, anyway? That the builders at Pisa knew and imitated Muslim architecture, which they also saw in Sicily, btw, is a conclusion that needs no struggles.--Wetman (talk) 17:02, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

If I put that specific section in, I don't remember now. If I put it in, I didn't make it up, and it would be in one of the sources listed in this article. You should have asked months ago. The other contributor is out of town and on the road, so I don't think he can respond for a couple of weeks. I would also say that he didn't make it up, either. 7&6=thirteen () 17:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Dear Wetman: I will attempt to answer your question. Reference #2 seems to be the source. I may have put this in originally, but I don't remember. I noticed in Pisa and the Dome of the Rock, Second edition,by Terry Allen, published by Solipsist Press, Occidental, California, 2008 that it says: Pisan monuments define a narrow span of time when ablaq, as opposed to simply the use of black and white in revetment.. I believe what they are saying is in that time period ablag (3 colors) was used in decoration of walls as opposed to black and white in revetment (2 colors) used in decoration of walls. It seems to talk a lot about it in the sections of "The Cathedral of Pisa" and "Ablaq, Zigzags, and the Romanesque". Hopefully there is enough clues there to answer your question.--Doug Coldwell talk 18:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I believe I have to correct myself as I am studying this further. Ablaq (particolored) is an architectural term for alternating or fluctuating rows of "light and dark" stone. "Light and dark" could be colors (i.e. red and white), contrasted to plain "black and white". "Light and dark" colors would be more interesting I would imagine that just plain "black and white".--Doug Coldwell talk 18:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC)