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The Aboriginal peoples in CanadaSymbol support vote.svg article is already too long (over-sized) and should serve only as an introduction for topics on Aboriginal peoples. To keep this overview article concise, please consider adding information instead to one of the many "main" articles about individual Indigenous topics or groups that link from this article, e.g. First Nations, Inuit, Métis people (Canada) etc. See Index of Aboriginal Canadian-related articles for complete listing. Why? see Wikipedia:Article size. Thank you. |- |}

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Alt text is not supposed to duplicate the caption at all, it's supposed to describe the picture as you would for someone who is blind. For example, the current alt text for the Clovis blade says "Clovis fluted blade 11,000 years old". What does "fluted" mean? What are the characteristics of a Clovis blade versus another blade? How can you tell by looking at it that it's 11,000 years old? Is it a knife? What's it made out of? A better description would be "A chipped piece of rock, sharpened into a primitive blade" or something along those lines. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:46, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

ok will work on this... will get real description from source Buzzzsherman (talk) 17:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

new article called Index of Aboriginal Canadian-related articles[edit]

hello yall.. new article to list all the Canadian related pages....pls add to it as of now it list 800 of the 1000+ articles Index of Aboriginal Canadian-related articles Buzzzsherman (talk) 19:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Peoples[edit]

Peoples insn't a word. The correct plural of person is people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisguyYEAH (talkcontribs) 14:18, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is, read this at Wiktionary, [1].

plural of people (already a plural form) - a race, group or nationality.

  1. "The course studies the history of Africa and the peoples who lived there." Heironymous Rowe (talk) 20:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


Canadian English.....When you use the word "peoples" you are referring to several groups of people and each group shares a common culture (in this case they are all Aboriginals). The plural for 'person' is 'people'. For example, one person but two, three, four ... people.

(plural peoples) Persons forming or belonging to a particular group, such as a nation, class, ethnic group, country, family, etc; folk; community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/indigenous_peoples

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/people

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/peoples

Buzzzsherman (talk) 20:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

checking citations[edit]

"The area holds evidence of early human habitation in Canada dating from about 20,000 years ago and ending about 11,000 years ago.[31]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nihola (talkcontribs) 06:51, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Citation 31 leads to a Taiga site for The Old Crow Flats. However, there is no mention of early human habitation on that web page. The citation here should be referring to evidence for what the sentence is referring to. Who is suggesting humans lived there 20,000 years ago and what is their evidence? The citation should be improved or the sentence removed.

Are there other poor citations on this page? Nihola (talk) 07:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

you are right ..i think the page info changed ..I have replaced with this [1] and [2]

I will find the books to references the pages as i work in a library .....

ANd yes they are saying they lived there 20,000 years ago...See -->Models of migration to the New World#Understanding the debate

  1. ^ "Introduction". Government of Canada. Parks Canada. 2009. Retrieved 2010-01-09. "Canada's oldest known home is a cave in Yukon occupied not 12,000 years ago like the U.S. sites, but at least 20,000 years ago" 
  2. ^ "Pleistocene Archaeology of the Old Crow Flats". Vuntut National Park of Canada. 2008. Retrieved 2010-01-10. "However, despite the lack of this conclusive and widespread evidence, there are suggestions of human occupation in the northern Yukon about 24,000 years ago, and hints of the presence of humans in the Old Crow Basin as far back as about 40,000 years ago." 

Buzzzsherman (talk) 08:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Fast. Great. Nihola (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Need you to watch!![edit]

I have made a new article on genetics... could i get all to add the article to your watch list! Indigenous Amerindian genetics we need to watch for vandalism..as this is the core article on Indigenous genetics and is new with no watchers .. Tks guys!!!!! PS me going for FA here soon!!...Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 04:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

dividing page[edit]

was thinking of making a page called Pre-Columbian era Canada ...so this means i would be moving the majority of the Paleo-Indians period and Archaic period. This would leave us more space to add more details on First nations, Metis and Inuit ...This will take some time.... What do you think??Moxy (talk) 18:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

First section needs some work[edit]

The first paragraph of the article is really difficult to read. It goes very quickly from the overly simple to the excessively technical with nothing linking the sentences together. This paragraph evokes an image of a civilization long gone, which isn't right.

The second and third paragraphs are also quite disjointed and difficult to read.

ArchBiscuit (talk) 08:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree. In my opinion the opening of this article is conceptually disjointed, and although it may consist of individually supportable facts, in my opinion it lacks overall coherence and should be rewritten and expanded upon to reflect what's expected stylistically in a lead section. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 18:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Indian term[edit]

I am not sure what the problem is with the ref?? [2] It clearly say its in decline.Moxy (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I think there is a misunderstanding going on here. The reference I removed from the article [3] titled "The Many Uses of the Word "Indian" in the English Language", extracted from the 1907 "Handbook of American Indians North of Mexico", does not mention (and thus does support) the claim that the term "Indian" is "falling into disuse". In fact, it claims that "[t]his term, in spite of its misleading connotation, has passed into the languages of the civilized world." Could you please indicate through a quote where you believe that this reference supports what's being claimed? cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 16:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Ok first its best to understand y certain refs are there.. The old saying was "The term Indian is no longer used"..This is wrong so we added this ref to show that Yes its still used, However it is clearly not used often in the general public as stated here...So what we have done is a compromise in saying its in decline...I have also added this ref Terminology of First Nations, Native, Aboriginal Moxy (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Moxy, I'm still at a loss in trying to understand why you believe that [4] is a useful reference in the way that it's being used in this article. It's being offered in support of the specific claim that "[t]he descriptors "Indian" and "Eskimo" are falling into disuse", but it remains unclear to me how this reference supports that position. The information it contains is lifted verbatim from a publication from 1907 (or 1913) and if anything substantiates that the term was in circulation at that time, but in what way does it directly support that the term is "falling into disuse" today? The other references are okay, but again, please indicate in the form of a quote from that material, why you believe that that reference supports what you're contending here. Remember, a reference can only be utilized to directly support what is being claimed in an article. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 18:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Omg i am completely confused....your edit is asking for facts about y The term Indian is in decline? I also think the ref is useless [5]... This refs were just below i moved them for you to see and/or found better links. But i though the problem you had was the term in decline as with your first edit...Anyways i will remove the Quebec references as i also believe its out dated. Moxy (talk) 18:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

First Peoples[edit]

"First Peoples" redirects here. I would appreciate an explanation, being that I was under the impression that the "First Peoples" is strictly an Australian myth. LutherVinci (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Pretty much every culture in the world has a "first peoples" myth. Christian cultures have Adam and Eve, Taoists have, well, nothing I guess, or maybe everything. Can you provide some links to explain? If there is a better target article to point to, we should do it. Or perhaps a disambiguation page could be used. Franamax (talk) 23:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I have fix this link, as it should go to Indigenous peoples..This is not a term use just in Canada.Moxy (talk) 02:44, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Under the section Native Australians#Belief Systems, they mention briefly an old Myth named "the First Peoples". Of coarse, every religion (even atheism) has some guesstimate as to what the first people on Earth was like, but I am pretty sure that Australia is the only place were the characters are called "First Peoples". LutherVinci (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Family Reunions,Sef Governor.? Nishga Area Kincolith B.C[edit]

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        To whom, may it concen
                              I have being,contacted by face book,for a family reunion
 Its being told that,many Nishga People are gathering for a Watts family reunion all of kincolith residence are all welcome
over 500 family members are contacted on face book.fund raising in a small self Governor village is kincolith b.c. I am worried of the safty of elders and childern

there is no near by hospital nor police,Anouther concern,we know nisga people has there own laws,most of us watts family is off reserve. My protection as a general person,has no saying of our safty for even 200 members. i have resign, not going This is my address#13 1940 nancee way Kelowna B.C.v1z 3r5 When i asked there is no answer back i need to be 50 miles near hospital is my max.away from citizens.thank-you for hearing.

Family Reunions,Sef Governor.? Nishga Area Kincolith B.C[edit]

Bold text

        To whom, may it concen
                              I have being,contacted by face book,for a family reunion
 Its being told that,many Nishga People are gathering for a Watts family reunion all of kincolith residence are all welcome
over 500 family members are contacted on face book.fund raising in a small self Governor village is kincolith b.c. I am worried of the safty of elders and childern

there is no near by hospital nor police,Anouther concern,we know nisga people has there own laws,most of us watts family is off reserve. My protection as a general person,has no saying of our safty for even 200 members. i have resign, not going This is my address#13 1940 nancee way Kelowna B.C.v1z 3r5 When i asked there is no answer back i need to be 50 miles near hospital is my max.away from citizens.thank-you for hearing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.71.242.59 (talk) 21:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

                   Rhoda Munro,Kelowna B.C.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.71.242.59 (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC) 

I'm just going to put this here...[edit]

I was looking for an article or section somewhere on prehistoric trade routes between Russia/Siberia area across the Bering Straights with the local indigenous Alaskans, but alas I found no place to put this article on a recently discovered 7th century Chinese bronze buckle in Alaska, so I will leave this here in case a future editor is interested.AerobicFox (talk) 00:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

It is an interesting archaeological find; but I'm not sure what, if anything, it has to do with Canadian Aboriginals. Mediatech492 (talk) 00:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Future uprising and overthrow of the colonial power[edit]

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/05/201358113923656697.html

How strong is the editorial sentiment to suppress this in Wikistan? Hcobb (talk) 23:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)