Talk:Abydos, Egypt

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Untitled[edit]

  • Anyone object to this article being rewritten – it is a bit of a mess, and rather confusing, especially as this is one of the most important places in Ancient Egypt mythology. The rewrite will be at Abydos, Egypt/temp Markh 10:19, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
26-Aug-2006: The current article, "Abydos, Egypt" has been expanded greatly, surpassing the article 'Abydos, Egypt/temp' which is only a stub. -Wikid77 09:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
It is because I haven't added anything since I created the temp article. Markh 10:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

--- QUERY: I don't know how to edit the photos, but if someone can edit the ones on the Abydos, it is the one on the right hand side of the page (near the "temple of Seti I"), and should read: "Panel from the Osiris temple: Horus being presented royal regalia by Seti I." This act is part of the Daily Ritual, known as the /rdit wAs HqA nxAxA iry awy iry rdwy/, 'giving of the wAs scepter, crook and flail, bracelets, and anklets', and is episode 28 of the Ritual. If someone could change that wording, it would be correct. (This scene is most likely from the Horus Chapel of the 6 deity chapels, but I can't be as certain about that, since Horus has two chapels in the temple). Many thanks. Kgriffisgreenberg (talk) 15:44, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Wiki issues[edit]

26-Aug-2006: The following issues relate to Wiki formatting rules, which are still debated:

  • Lower-cased Headers: Although Wiki headers are wikified to lower-case after the first word, note that "Great Temple" is a proper noun, so "Temple" has been re-upcased in the header. I feel that headers should have capital words, as in standard grammar and punctuation, because wikified as lower-case seems way spastic, with more problems having to guess which words are the proper nouns that will be capitalized. -Wikid77 09:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Image Locations: As of August 2006, Wiki display might still truncate text around images, depending on multiple images near each other. I had to separate the Hieroglyphs-image from the Egypt-map-image on the page, since text was being cut off next to those images. -Wikid77 10:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The Hieroglyphs seem to have vanished from the article and yet they are still mentioned in the paragraph text. The main picture should hardly be the Osirion but the temple itself, I have taken some more pictures of Abydos http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Merlin-UK#Abydos_-_Temple_of_Osiris, if any are useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin-UK (talkcontribs) 19:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Superb photos.--Charles (talk) 20:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Sacred Head of Osiris[edit]

What the heck is that? I've cross-referenced it and can't find a thing. Is it the same as the "Tower of Osiris"? Or is it relating to a myth? --Laveaux 19:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC) This related to the myth - osiris was killed and his body cut into several pieces, the head was buried at Abydos hence Abydos is the cult centre for Osiris —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin-UK (talkcontribs) 19:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Temple of Osiris (helicopters and modern things)[edit]

Is there already an article for this? Because if so, it should be linked to here, if not, we need something about it, because it is a documented notable place for its glyphs of the helicoper, hovercraft, spaceship, and jet. Queerbubbles (talk) 23:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Archaeology in the area[edit]

I was linked here from this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastavatar/3274546324/in/pool-archaeologyinaction and I thought it was awesome (hoping the link works). Is there any information available about the archaeology in the area? Information on that would be an interesting addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.104.207 (talk) 03:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Removal of section[edit]

I've removed this section

The "mysterious" hieroglyphs in Temple of Seti I
The mysterious hieroglyphs in Temple of Seti I. which are said to represent modern vehicles as a helicopter, a submarine, a zeppelin and a glider.

Some of the hieroglyphs carved over an arch on the site have been interpreted in esoteric and "ufological" circles as depicting modern technology.

Often described as a helicopter, a battle tank or submarine, and a fighter plane or even a U.F.O. But this is partly based on widely distributed retouched images that removed key details from the carvings. When examining the original hieroglyphs the provocative images are commonly explained as being the result of erosion, and later adjustments, or re-writing over the original inscriptions that left parts of the older text visible creating the illusion of modern-looking machines. Pharaoh's Helicopter? "Helicopter Hieroglyph" Explained!

It looks like it should be under Temple of Seti instead of its own section, but note that none of the sources actually mention this as a location.

Actually, one of the sources mentions it as coming from the 'Temple of Osiris' instead. Whilst looking at those I noticed that they were both self-published, plus the section probably doesn't belong in this article, so I've taken it out. It could of course have a place if it was discussed in some reliable sources. See also Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (history).

--Michael Billington (talk) 10:45, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm taking the text provisionally to its own article, as we have stand-alone articles on most famous OOPArts. --Againme (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree this section on the "Abydos helicopter" should remain out (I have answered this issue just about every time it's come up for discussion: it's a palimpsest and does not reflect "ancient aircraft"). However, for editorial reference, the glyphs in question appear on the lintels of the central doorways leading into the First Hypostyle Hall of the temple: usually the bawab (gatekeeper) of the temple will point them out, but they are about 20+ feet above the floor and difficult to see without a telescopic lens. With such a lens, you can see the overlay of the glyphs more clearly. Kgriffisgreenberg (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Relief[edit]

The section 'Tombs' is accompanied by a photo of an Egyptian relief; the caption states that the Pharaoh is Seti and the prince is Ramesses (II). However the summary for the photo in Wikipedia Commons states that the Pharaoh in the relief is Ramesses II, and the prince another name. I had intended to fix the punctuation in the caption, but it seems that the prince (whoever he is), rather than the Pharaoh, is closer to capturing the bull. But I'm no expert on Egyptian reliefs, so I've left the whole matter unchanged. 203.6.146.5 (talk) 08:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

This photo replaced one which I took showing that the pharaoh is swinging a lasso in his raised hand. I never knew the identity of the figures though.--Charles (talk) 09:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

The relief is located in the passageway to the Osireion within the temple of Seti I, and referred to as the "lassoing of the Great Bull." It is that of Seti I (adult) with his son, Ramses (as a youth). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgriffisgreenberg (talkcontribs) 14:18, 10 August 2014 (UTC)