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recent sourcing[edit]

There have been a bunch of sources added for the area of the empire which imho is a bit problematic. First of all one or two sources at the end of the paragraph might be more sensible (and improve the readability of the source text dramatically) then adding inline references to each single country. There is also cherry picking/WP:SYNTH problem by picking and combining these countries names from different sources, instead of sticking to the description in one or two reputable sources. Also the use of India in the sources cannot necessarily be equated with modern India, but also with historic India which includes Pakistan, in that sense northwestern India is essentially Pakistan.--Kmhkmh (talk) 05:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

New to this section, but I got to address this.[edit]

Before anyone says anything YES! IT IS ABOUT THE MAP! I was just thinking that rather than a map that shows territorial acquisitions over time, shouldn't we simply have a map in the infobox that shows the Achaemenid Empire at it's greatest extent? I have one, but it is no where near done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Achaemenid_Empire_under_Darius.png

I am remaking the map and planning on making it a bit more like this: http://cominganarchy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/persia-map1.jpg

what do you all think? (most of you probably won't agree with me, but it is worth a shot...) Keeby101 (talk) 06:29, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

This empire has included parts some 35-40 modern countries and inserting all of them is extreme WP:OVERCAT. It would be much better if such categories are used for provinces (satrapies). --HistorNE (talk) 10:29, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I made a better map, what do you all think?[edit]

It's not the map that I posted before, it's a much better and more accurate version of the Godly Achaemenid Empire! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Achaemenid_Empire_ca_400_B.C.jpg

What do you think? Keeby101 (talk) 22:08, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Neither was the empire godly nor is your map an improvement. In particular with regard to the date on it the map is actually grossly off (the Persians didn't have any provinces in Europe in 400 BC).--Kmhkmh (talk) 00:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

44% claim the lead[edit]

That figure is a violation of WP:SYNTH as it combines data total empire population estimations from one set of sources to the word population total from another source. In another words none of the sources actually claims that 44% figure. This is particularly problematic since population estimates vary greatly and are not particularly reliable, so by combining figures from different sources into a derived percentage value, you can essentially make up any percentage value and the 44% are simply the best guess by the WP editor (rather thabn ab external source). On top of that a rather weak source is used for global population total (some UN/government statistic rather than some academic/scholarly publication).--Kmhkmh (talk) 01:02, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

If we remember that 50 million of inhabitants means huge cities and nearby villages like in today's world, we conclude that the number is out of proportions! Were are the huge cities? Archeology reveals that they were not so big.....Rome was the first city in the world to have one million inhabitants, and this happened only under Augustus... and the Roman empire had only 25 million inhabitants, some centuries later! The 50 million and the 44% claim are clearly 2 huge mistakes!!!! Tim K. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.208.127.8 (talk) 16:19, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Uh, the Roman Empire in 117 AD had a population of 88 million. Just correcting that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.225.33 (talk) 22:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Slavery[edit]

This needs revision: it currently states slavery was 'banned', which isn't actually true, but then in the remainder of the paragraph describes its practice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.184.115.220 (talk) 15:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

New Map made by me! What do you all think?[edit]

I have recently created a new and more high quality map of the Godly Achaemenid Persian Empire that I would like to put into the infobox of the article!

It's not finished yet obviously, I still need to add the rest of the cities and provinces, but you have to admit that it is far better than the current map in the infobox. Cheers! Kirby (talk) 05:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Red is not a good color for that. Green or another variant of green is better. --Zyma (talk) 05:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
What are you saying? So you all will accept the map as the infobox map if I paint it a different color? Kirby (talk) 06:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I just commented about the color, not the factual and historical accuracy. --Zyma (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Redirected from Medo-Persian Empire. Why isn't "Medo" in the article?[edit]

If this article is appropriately redirected when searching Wikipedia for Medo-Persian Empire, why isn't "Medo" in the article anywhere? (Please message me? Thanks.) Misty MH (talk) 01:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)