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Difference between Acid rock and Psychedelic rock[edit]

Will someone explain the difference between Acid rock and Psychedelic rock?

G'day, User:Iwakura42. I'd never heard the term psychedelic rock used formally to describe a genre before, but acid rock is both a subgenre of psychedelic music and its forefunner, as the article on psychedelic music already makes plain IMO. So the redirect I found here to acid (disambiguation) didn't IMO do the term any justice at all, although the redirect from psychedelic rock to psychedelic music is probably fair enough.
So you're right, it's confusing and inaccurate. You end up going in circles. That may be authentic in a sense considering the subject matter, but this sort of cyberpoetry is not what we seek to create as an encyclopedia! I'll fix it. Andrewa 21:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Psychedelic Rock IS a genre of music & is still on going. Acid Rock is significant to Psychedelic Rock only as it's forerunner like Proto-punk to punk.

...but Psychedelic music is a better label than psychedelic rock because many seminal psychedelic releases fall into different larger genres. Example would be The Chambers Bros. "Time Has Come Today" which is simultaneously psychedelia & soul.

further...I fell this whole article should be folded into the comprehensive list of psychedelic artists because "Acid Rock" was a term proscribed by the media & it didn't last very long once "The Psychedelic Sounds of..." the 13th Floor Elevators came out & the culture at large adopted 'Psychedelic'

pink floyd never used drugs, therefore thay can't be considred acid rock.

  • You've GOT to be kidding me. The Chief 08:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Syd Barret used drugs. Imadofus 23:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Coined by the media or not - "Acid Rock" is a term commonly used to describe a style of music. I think it belongs here as a Wikipedia article. Whether or not the artist utilized drugs in the writing and recording process is not necessarily a condition. Many recordings commonly associated with the tag "acid rock" may have nothing to do with drugs - however, listeners at large may perceive or associate an artist or song with LSD or drugs or the use there of - and thus the work may be associated with the genre. For example, "Journey To The Center Of The Mind" by the Amboy Dukes might be considered "acid rock" or "Psychedelic", however the lead guitarist Ted Nugent claims to have never done drugs. Still the track was chosen for Rhino's psychedelic anthology "Nuggets". Finally, I'd ultimately argue that "Acid Rock" is a subgenre of "Psychedelic rock" - the more avant-garde, strung out, jams: Pink Floyd's "Interstellar Overdrive" rather than "Arnold Layne", The Doors "The End" rather than "Break On Through", Jimi Hendrix’s "Third Stone From The Sun" rather than "Purple Haze". DannyRay 03:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    • You should include that in the article or something Imadofus 03:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I wrote the german article about Psychedelic Rock, and still continue working on it. There is no difference between Psychedelic Rock and Acid Rock, neither musically nor cultural. Acid Rock is not the forerunner of Psychedelic Rock because The 13th Floor Elevators were described as a Psychedelic Rock Band years before Tom Wolfe (in his book from 1968!) popularized the term Acid Rock. Assigning Acid Rock to the Avantgarde tracks (not bands!?) is a personal point of view which is impossible to confirm with any serious sources. Search the web and you will find out that some people prefer the term Acid Rock while others use Psychedelic Rock for the same bands, tracks, music or whatever.--90.187.102.169 (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Are you sure there is no difference between Acid and Psychedelic? If that is true, why are there two different articles?? I am having the same discussion in the french page, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Acid_rock , if you don't speak french you can just read the lists of examples for acid rock. Colombiano54 (talk) 22:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
  • IMHO acid rock is just psychedelic rock on hippie's slang. Bands mentioned in article (The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Iron Butterfly, Big Brother & The Holding Company, Cream, Jefferson Airplane, Ultimate Spinach, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Blue Cheer, Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Great Society, Stone Garden and the Grateful Dead) are classic bands of psychedelic rock. Definition "Acid rock is a form of psychedelic rock, which is characterized by long instrumental solos, few (if any) lyrics and musical improvisation" is weird to start with because a lot of space rock bands (Hidria Spacefolk, Ozric Tentacles, Øresund Space Collective, Quantum Fantay etc) also play long, often instrumental, psychedelic jams/solos without being labelled with "acid rock". Perhaps only argument for separate genre is that some bands (Cream, Blue Cheer and The Jimi Hendrix Experience) are known for excessive use of wah-wah which produces distinct "acid"(LSD) sound though most psychedelic bands used that pedal as well. Anyway I'm voting for merge. PS sorry for my bad english. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.39.81.126 (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Improvement.[edit]

This subject deserves a much better article. I'll try to improve it and expand as much as I can. Anyone with me? --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"Acid rock is a form of psychedelic rock, which is characterized with long instrumental solos, few (if any) lyrics and musical improvisation."

This is the worst description of anything I've ever heard. Few lyrics? How many of the "Notable acid rock tracks and singles" have few lyrics? fuckin' A fix this shit!

The so-called "acid rocks tracks" listed at the bottom of the article are not acid rock at all... (The Beatles? 13th Floor Elevators? clearly, it was written by a newbie). Just listen to actual acid rock bands (live shows of the Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service an so on) before you start bashing, because you obviously have no idea what acid rock is. --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 07:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Wheres the goddamn Acid punk[edit]

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ACID PUNK PAGE? It was useful! Now it redirects to this garbage! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.44.38.102 (talk) 00:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, total vandalism that is. Even on the redirect page, the old content seems to be deleted from the history. *why do that?* 121.45.247.36 (talk) 07:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Psychedelic Rock[edit]

Acid Rock isn't a real Genre, it's just a term that people would use for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HerpyMcDerp (talkcontribs) 16:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I would be inclined to agree, but some reliable sources state that it is a sub-genre of psychedelic rock, and that is quite hard to argue against.--SabreBD (talk) 10:16, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I came of awareness late in the game say 1969 and 1970 and my memory of it differs in someways and is the same in someways from the reliable sources of today. Yes it was an adult coined catchall term and was a subgenre of psychedelic rock. While the "Trippy" elements were up front in most psychedelic rock the LOUD and "grating" elements that drove parents crazy were upfront in Acid Rock songs while "druggy" stuff was more in the background. Hendrix and Joplin were the two defining figures of acid rock. Joplins "screaming" vocals style made her acid rock. Psychedelic but not acid Donovan too mellow, Strawberry Alarm Clock vocals a little to trippy a little too many keyboards. Steppenwolf definitely Acid rock, "Ride Captain Ride" (guitar solo), "Spirit in the Sky" and vaguely the first "Venus" (she screamed) was the watered down pop hooked up version of the acid rock (nobody would say "acid pop" or "psychedelic pop") that was acceptable for Top 40 AM radio. Remember in pre multitasking 1970 what was loud and grating in middle America is tame by today's standards. Edkollin (talk) 21:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Black Sabbath & The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test[edit]

I haven't read the book but it strikes me odd that Black Sabbath is supposedly mentioned in it. The book was published in 1968 and Black Sabbath released their first single in 1970 (changed their name in 1969). So either Tom Wolfe had an epihany while enjoying some kool-aid, Black Sabbath figured a way to travel back in time or a different band with the same name was around while Wolfe wrote the book?!

I think Sabbath turn up more in apocalyptic visions than LSD prompted ones. A classic case of list creep. I have restored an older version of the sentence. Thanks for pointing it out.--SabreBD (talk) 08:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)