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Unclassed discussion[edit]

Sixth Sense has a grocery store named ACME —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.161.112 (talk) 17:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


In the movie The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, ammunition boxes labeled "ACME EXTRA" are in the background in the ammo shop scene where Tuco builds himself a customized revolver - could this be a reference to the Looney Tunes? --Mreich99 —Preceding undated comment added 22:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC).


There seems to be a contradiction in the text. In the introduction it says Acme first appeared in a Buddy cartoon, but then goes on to say in the Name and Inspiration section that "The joke spread to Warner Bros. cartoons; in 1949, it made its first appearance in a Road Runner cartoon." -- 165.228.6.111 (talk) 05:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


"According to Wikipedia.com, "The Acme Corporation is a fictional corporation that exists in Looney Tunes' universe. The company is never clearly defined, but apparently exists as some degree of monopoly, which produces everything and anything imaginable, no matter how elaborate or extravagant (making the acronymic explanation 'A Company that Makes Everything' a good guess)." As Mr. Major noted, in Warner Bros. cartoons, Acme products were most commonly purchased (mail order) by Wile E. Coyote who ordered many weapons in his failed attempts to catch the Road Runner." — Montreal Gazette, October 1, 2005

Who is Daniel Latson? Google comes up with squat. Are we sure this isn't a case of someone creeping in to mention their own (unknown) stuff? The paragraph on it here doesn't mention that this Acme is ever in any published works. -- Tarquin 20:17 Oct 5, 2002 (UTC)

It was added by a regular contributor (Fonzy), and it seems an unlikely thing to add if it was unknown (even if it is virtually unknown you would expect some mention of it to be on the web even if it was just the guy's homepage). So as a result I suspect that there is a typo in the name and that is why you can't find him. --Imran
Well, Fonzy seems to make a lot of typos. (I don't mind, it means there's someone who makes more than me!) -- so that's plausible. I guess I'm in a suspicious mood because we've had quite a few people add things they've made up lately. I'll ask Fonzy to clarify -- Tarquin


I'm confused myself. I never wrote that. :-s. All i can think of is that one my freidns must have doen it when they were at my house, dot kow why. - fonzy


In that case I'll move it here until someone can confirm.
* the fictitious country of Acme is a fictitious country invented by Daniel Latson in 1950. He came up with a whole fictitious history of the country. It is still continued by his descendants.

I remember Acme commercials done by Nick@Nite. They were pretty good. Unfortunately I don't have any more information on how many they made or exactly when they aired altough I found this USENET article which mentions them. - Mike Lippert


Moving stuff on the cartoon acme back to Road Runner cartoon. Having a page for every single concept is not necessary, nor desirable. It is better to have one fair-sized page on the RR cartoons as a whole than force a reader to skip around different pages -- Tarquin 15:47 Oct 9, 2002 (UTC)


Can't find anything useful about Ajax and Disney with Google and http://home.nc.rr.com/tuco/looney/acme/airdrop.html suggests it's some WB company?


The idea of an Acme monopoly seems wrong. The various Acme products in the Looney Tunes cartoons are meant to have come from different companies, otherwise there's no joke. The joke is based on the widespread use (at the time) of the name Acme for companies of all sorts.

On what basis would someone assume that it was a single company? I wonder, is insertion of the the monopoly interpretation here a bit of a troll?

The wording should be changed... monopoly seems wrong even if it IS one company with many seemingly-random divisions. I am changing the word to conglomerate, which would be more appropriate. Jafafa Hots 17:14, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

ACME - Where does it come from ...[edit]

I met Chuck Jones at the University of Dayton when he was invited as distinguished speaker. I am not sure if the year was 1980 or 1981, but we had a two hour lecture about his career and cartoon character´s character.

I remember that on the first question someone asked "why ACME, where does the name comes from?".

Mr. Jones replied that back at "Termite Terrace" in Bourbank California in the mid 30s there was this phone-book that on the outside back cover advertised a company called "ACME". So back then people simply referred to that catalog or directory as "The ACME" ... and contained all companies and products advertised. I assume that "The ACME" was similar to what we now know as the YellowPages.

Regards,

Federico Iglesias University of Dayton, Class ´83. Sirve 18:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

-- I think it would be prudent to look into this further. There are signs of a very different origin than is given here. Please check out http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/acme for some information. Confirmation can be found http://www.ismacs.net/sears/sears.html that demonstrate ACME was used as a company name back as far as 1897. 71.214.63.192 (talk) 21:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC) an avid reader/researcher

I was also at an event at the George Eastman House in 1999 or 2000 where Chuck Jones stated it was taken from a telephone book. 69.138.72.113 (talk) 06:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

ACME - Where does it come from ... -- another explanation[edit]

I remember seeing a TV programme (on the BBC?) in which a number of people involved with the early years of film making gave their opinion on the origins of the word. One explanation was that it was another mangled word in the line of 'gofer = go for'. Apparently one of the gofers was from Brooklyn and was in the habit of saying "Just ask me" when requests were made of him. He pronounced this as "just as' me" or "as' me" which become "ACME" and should be pronounced with a 'c' not a 'k'. 69.204.232.223 18:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  • That sounds like a fairy tale. In any case, the origins of the "ACME" name in the Road Runner cartoons is well-established. Wahkeenah 02:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

ACME - Where does it come from ... -- another bogus explanation[edit]

Surely I'm not the only one who heard that it was from Acme Consolidated Manufacturing Enterprises? Snezzy (talk) 15:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Actually, I'd heard that it stood for "American Company that Makes Everything"... 66.234.24.170 (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
This demonstrates why we don't print any of these "I heard it stands for ..." backronyms. -DavidWBrooks (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Acme name free to register?[edit]

Long ago, I was explained that one reason for companies to use the Acme name was that the Acme name was the only name one could register with the authorities for free. I have no idea whether there is any value in that explanation, but maybe someone can do a search in an electronic version of old regulations and see if that explanation can be substantiated. Wurdnurd 10:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

  • That sounds like a (Greek) myth. You could look in Google for the various urban legends sites and see if any of them have anything to say about it. Wahkeenah 11:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

"A Company that Makes Everything"? I read that somewhere.97.73.64.154 (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you read it in this article - at the bottom it currently says: It is a common misconception that Acme is an acronym standing for such things as "A Company that Makes Everything", "American Companies Make Everything" or "American Company that Manufactures Everything" - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

ACME used in Duke Nukem/ACME created teleport tecnology[edit]

Hello, what's about telling that in Duke Nukem 1 and 2 all the falling iron-bars and stuff (I think cameras and telescreens as well) were made by ACME? Also intresting,that ACME Corp. has created teleport gun,that teleports people & items trough very large distances (see Looney Tunes:Back In Action)

ACME owned by road runners / ACME Home Shopping Channel/ACME Conspiracy theory[edit]

Didn't some of the Looney Tunes cartoons imply that ACME was owned by road runners -- thus perhaps explaining why the company's products worked so poorly for the Coyote?

On another note, Berkeley Systems (makers of After Dark) once published a Looney Tunes screensaver for Mac OS (System 8) and Windows (pre-XP). One of the modules was an "ACME home shopping channel" that advertised anything from "dehydrated boulders" to "coyotatomic rockets" to asprin. Operators (Granny) are standing by!!!

Should the content page make reference to this screensaver, or to the printed "ACME catalog" (I forget the exact title) that appeared in bookstores within the last year or so?

  • The name of the book is "The ACME Catalog" (Chronicle Books, 2006). The authors are Charles Carrey (text) and Scott Gross (illustrations); the ISBN-13 code is 978-0-8118-5115-2. The covers proclaim that "Quality Is Our #1 Dream". -- Thomas Newton (172.145.92.99 04:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC))

Thomas Newton (172.164.31.177 06:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

                                        ALL LISTED BELOW IS ABOUT ACME "CONSPIRACY THEORY"

Well,I think,that if ACME Corp.would be destroyed/bankrupt/disbanded,some of the Looney Tunes will immideatly stop existing,because ONLY thing,that keeping Road Runner and,partially,Tweety intact,is frequent ACME equipment failures. Othervise,Wile E.Coyote,and after small waiting,Sylvester the Cat,will acomplish their goals,and when the mania of revenge will come down,they would realise,that they would do better anywhere else.They will stay away from such difficult goals any longer! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! P.S. Probably,behind ACME CEO is standing bird mafia (Tweety & Road Runner ARE birds,aren't they?),and that is explanation why malfunctioning hardware is sent to Coyote & Sylvester. Marvin K. Acme may be murdered in "Who framed Roger Rabbit" due to two reasons:first he could be murdered to ease capturing of ACME Corp.to Road Runner & Tweety(51% of company stock value on their hands or their integration in ACME Top Managment & above). Othervise,Marvin K. Acme COULD work with Road Runner & Tweety,but they had a some sort of disagreement,and Tweety with Road Runner made a decision,that they could assasinate Marvin K. Acme,and frame Roger Rabbit to disguise real murderers-themselves. Building the freeway in place of Toontown isn't respective reason to kill multimillonare founder of ACME Conglomerate! And,you know the mafia - instead of dealing enemies on their own they would send anyone else,pomising a reward(construction opportunity,for example). If plan partially,or fully fails,Tweety and Road Runner would stay uninvolved in this large scandal.You can belive it,or not - it's one of your civil rigts,but remember, what i sayed over here... you may need it...

                                                                            THE END.

First Appearance?[edit]

The first use of the Acme name in a Warner-released cartoon is in Porky’s Poppa (Clampett, 1938)

according to http://www.conmicro.cx/~eocostello/wbcc/eowbcc-a.html which is cited elsewhere in the article. Is the first appearance mentioned in the article not a WB cartoon or should this be changed? OrangeDog 23:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Buddy was a WB character. Someone would have to consult the Beck book and see which came first. Or maybe just Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies filmography. Wahkeenah 23:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yep, the Buddy was first OrangeDog 14:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
ACME is also used as the name of a store in Safety Last! (1923)

ACME in Monty Python[edit]

In the short sketch "The Crimson Permanent Assurance" which precedes Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life", the London office block is covered by sheets marked "ACME Stone Cleaning". Later in the same film there's an ACME Construction Company among the list of companies in the wall of the Very Big Corporation of America. Rcasha 05:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

It is featured on lots of Monty Pythons sketches, actually. I'll add that. - Aki (talk) 18:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Acme Corporation: Copyrighted?[edit]

Is the term, "Acme Corporation," in any way Copywrighted, Trademarked, exc.? And if so, by who? --209.247.5.142 22:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

And...[edit]

Acme-products even exist in Pink Panther cartoons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.181.97.10 (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Only in Looney Tunes?[edit]

I have seen ACME appear in lots of cartoons, films and similar. Should it really say that it's "a fictional corporation that exists in the Looney Tunes universe"? I think it's more correct with something along the lines of "The Acme Corporation is a fictional corporation that exists in several cartoons, films and TV series, most significantly in the Looney Tunes universe." - Aki (talk) 18:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

As has been referenced before, it was - and to a point still it - common to come up with a name for your company that would place it close to the front of the telephone directory... ACME does just that. If you have a faucet spraying water all over your kitchen and grab a phone book, you are more likely to call "Acme Plumbers" than "Mike's Plumbing" in an emergency. Also, the word "acme" is Latin for 'of the highest quality'. Look it up on Google rather than Wikipedia just to see how it is used.(The ACME pages on Wikipedia get vandalised too much for them to be always useful.) But in a big city such as Chicago or Minneapolis, you are very likely to find at least one company called "Acme". Hope this clarifies for you, Cheers! Bloo (talk) 04:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

"Second to none"?[edit]

"Acme delivery service, on the other hand, is second to none." I don't think that that phrase is appropriate. Perhaps something like "Acme Delivery service, on the other hand, is of exceptional quality." "Second to none" is a biased phrase; even though the company doesn't actually exist, and it's probably true, it still doesn't fit normal Wikipedia guidelines. ChaosMaster (talk) 03:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

origin of ACME in roadrunner cartoons[edit]

I believe that the source of "ACME" in the cartoons came from one of their vendors, ACME Rents. ACME is one of the oldest rental companies in the US, and they have rented equipment to the movie studios since the studios have been in Hollywood. Whatever the studio needed, I understand that they could rent it from ACME. Someone should follow up on this lead, but it makes sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.243.228.66 (talk) 19:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

This is true. I know for a fact that ACME Rents provided props such as Elmer Fudd's rifle and Tweety's cage.PacificBoy 19:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Playboy Article[edit]

Wylie sued ACME (Article in Playboy) - but lost - because he was not using the products in accordance with their design intent...

Can't remember the date - or if it was even really Playboy - might have been one of the other Men's Mags - but it was in a copy that was probably an Australian Edition.

FoolesTroupe (talk) 01:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Factual error[edit]

I would dispute this claim in the text: "Primarily, the name "Acme" is widely known by the public to be an acronym of 'American Company that Makes Everything' ". It is unsubstantiated. I would imagine that the opposite is true, that you would be hard pressed to find people who can come up with this acronym. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.41.50 (talk) 15:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I just came into this talk page to ask why this hasn't been included in the article. And if it's false, why is it at least not refuted somewhere? EditorInTheRye (talk) 18:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Nobody has been able to provide any evidence for that backwards-acronym - and I'm not sure how the article can refute something that doesn't seem to exist anywhere but vague rumors. Do you want something like "Despite many rumors, there is no evidence that ACME was used because it stands for so-and-so"? .. but if so, what the heck reference would you use for evidence that something doesn't exist? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 18:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Search google books for [acme "makes everything"], there are references to it [1] EditorInTheRye (talk) 18:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This is for the similar backronym "a company that makes everything", which is similar but also not featured in this article, I should add. EditorInTheRye (talk) 18:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

(unindent) I only saw one reference in the first couple pages of the Google book search, an offhand statement that the acronym exists. Certainly nothing even vaguely close to a reference that would show that the name ACME was chosen because of the acronym - and personally, it didn't seem common enough to require a refutation in this article, although that is more open to dispute. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:09, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Main origin of ACME in cartoons; from the horses mouth[edit]

There is a recent documentary on Chuck Jones (obviously using archival footage) in which he tells how he started using ACME. This article indicates that it was used in earlier cartoons (Buddy) and other places, but certainly Chuck Jones is where the widespread usage comes from and he gives an exact detail on the source of his usage in the cartoons he devised. Regardless of whether it was used prior to him and that prior use arose from other, similar or the same reasons, his reasons do not arise from mimicking something established but from first principles. If someone who cares about this article wishes to do some work with it, I am setting forth the full quote below, verbatim, with the source cited in full:

(Speaking on his childhood and playing with his siblings in California):

We were little madcaps along the beach and we did what we enjoyed doing and could get dirty and could eat hot dogs and so on. Since we had to search out our own entertainment, we devised our own fairy stories. If you wanted a bow and arrow you got a stick. If you wanted to conduct an orchestra you got a stick. If you wanted a duel you used a stick. You couldn't go and buy one; that's where the terms acme came from. Whenever we played a game where we had a grocery store or something we called it the ACME corporation. Why? Because in the yellow pages if you looked, say, under drugstores, you'd find the first one would be Acme Drugs. Why? Because "AC" was about as high as you could go; it means the best; the superlative.<ref>{{cite video|people = Peggy Stern and John Canemaker (filmmakers)|date2 = March 24, 2009|title = Chuck Jones: Memories of Childhood|url = http://www.tcm.com/movienews/index.jsp?cid=225908|medium = Documentary|publisher = Turner Classic Movies and Warner Bros.|accessdate = April 29, 2009|time = 12 min.}}</ref>

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Endless list of appearances[edit]

There are now more than 50 instances of "acme" appearing in cartoons, TV shows, movies, videogames, etc., listed in this article - it has become a classic example of a pointless trivia list: It was in this movie! Plus, it was in this show! And in this game!

I would like to remove all of them, replacing them with a short announcement that "Acme" has become a commonly used generic term for companies and products in multiple programs. Any thoughts? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree 100% and would add that not a one of those laundry list factoids is referenced. They can thus be challenged and removed and the burden is on those wishing to keep them. The thing is that these types of lists are terribly clunky flow breakers in articles. They should be prosified or removed. If some of the more notable mentions can be sourced, the material can be tuirned into prose easily. I would suggest something not unlike: Following Chuck Jones' popularization of "Acme" through Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote cartoons, the term became a commonly used generic term for companies and products in multiple other programs, persisting through today. Using "Acme" as the archetype catchall corporation has appeared in such diverse sources as ____, ___ and ___ during the 1960s;____, ___ and ___ during the 1970s;... etc.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think that perhaps some Wikipedia author/editor should make a new article titled References to ACME in popular culture or something like that, so that there can be as many examples as possible. [Anonymous Editor]

Appearance in Las Vegas[edit]

The company "Acme" also appears in the TV Serie "Las Vegas" (Season 3, episode 2). Mike Cannon orders Mitch to check which people are fired at the company which manufactures their chips, Acme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.101.37.122 (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in Carmageddon[edit]

A powerup in Carmageddon, Carmageddon II and Carmageddon TDR 2000 is named Acme damage magnifier, a reference to this corporation. Should this reference be put in this article? Srb2Espyo (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

How do you know it's in specific reference to this meme? There are a bazillion mentions of Acme this and that in media everywhere - this article would be swamped by them, absolutely buried, if we included them all. So unless they very specifically mention the Looney Tunes meme as part of the game/movie/show reference, we haven't been including them. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok, calm down. That's why I asked. Ok then, it won't be added. And incidentally, I don't think it's quite a meme... more like a... well, I don't know. Meme just doesn't sound to good. Srb2Espyo (talk) 22:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound uncalm - I just wanted to say something more than "no". And yeah, "meme" is too pompous; but "concept" and "theory" and "philosophy" are all way overboard. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Understood. Srb2Espyo (talk) 13:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit[edit]

The ACME corporation was an important and recurring element in the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". A mention of this might be waranted. Redge (talk) 15:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

There are currently a couple of sentences about it in the "Live-action films, TV series" section. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

ACME and the Three Stooges[edit]

ACME is the name of two companies in the 1938 "Termites of 1938" The Three Stooges short, the first being the Acme Escort Service and the second the Acme Exterminator Co., as can be found in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termites_of_1938 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.52.245.179 (talk)

Synthesis problems[edit]

This article is a prime example of the use of inappropriate synthesis to link disparate examples into a constructed whole which may not actually exist. For instance, the first two examples given in the third paragraph of the introduction display no obvious connection to the Road Runner example except in name; likewise, the "Real usage" section explicitly notes that the usage in question may be incidental. This article should probably focus on the company prominently featured in Road Runner and derived from that usage, and refer to other cases solely in order to differentiate from them. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 17:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Good points. I've made some tweaks/edits - probably not really enough, though. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 18:08, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

ACME[edit]

Hello,

I got a question: Doesn't ACME stand for American Company that Makes Everything.

Kinds Regards, Joshua Nas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.46.56.77 (talk) 12:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I got an answer: No. (At least, not that anybody can provide a reference for, as above discussion demonstrates. If you can find something, that would be wonderful, but the chuck Jones quote in the article seems to undermine this backronym idea.) - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Acme products[edit]

This article says that acme products tend to fail. In the shorts, products the coyote uses do fail, but none of those are shown to be made by acme, and so we can't assume that they are acme products. I haven't seen any products that we know are made by acme fail.Qwertzy (talk) 19:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)