Talk:Adam and the Ants

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Comeback[edit]

I could look into doing this myself, of course, but I figure I may as well leave the suggestion since I don't have the time right now: Adam Ant's pseudo-comeback in the 1990s, with the album Manners and Physique, might be worth covering. - David Spitzley

Already covered on Adam Ant. TheMadBaron 01:20, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Duplication of information?[edit]

This article is more about Adam Ant himself than about the pop group Adam and the Ants. Indeed his recent arrest on gun charges is mentioned here and not under Adam Ant. Perhaps the two pages should be merged?

Re-structured?[edit]

What does the reference to a "re-structured" band mean? The only "re-structuring" Adam and The Ants went through in the 1980s was when Kevin Mooney was replaced by Gary Tibbs. This happened after the release of Kings of the Wild Frontier and was the band member bass guitarist for Stand and Deliver and subsequent hits including the album "Prince Charming".

Beginning cleanup[edit]

Lots of info belongs (and is already in) Adam Ant.

Also, there are inaccuracies and timeline issues. Gary Tibbs recorded Prince Charming and toured afterwards as well. Ant Rap predated Duck Rock, etc.

I'm going to be bold and take a cut at cleaning this up. Any/all feedback is welcome. Econrad 22:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Singles info from Adam Ant[edit]

I'm parking this here for the time being; the table on this page and this information needs to be merged.

ADAM AND THE ANTS

  • "Young Parisians" / "Lady" - Decca single - released 1978
  • "Zerox" / "Whip in my Valise" - Do It single - released 1979
  • "Cartrouble"/ "Kick!" - Do It Single - released 1980
  • "Kings of the Wild Frontier" / "Press Darlings" - CBS single- released 1980
  • "Dog Eat Dog"/ "Physical (You're so)" - CBS single- released 1980
  • "Antmusic"/ "Fall In" - CBS single- released 1980
  • "Stand and Deliver" / "Beat My Guest" - CBS single- released 1981
  • "Prince Charming" / "Christian D'or" - CBS single - released 1981
  • "Antrap" / "Friends" - CBS single- released 1981
  • "Friends EP" ("Friends" / "Kick" / "Physical") - Do it single- released 1982
  • Antmusic EP ("Cartrouble 1 and 2 remix" / "Friends" / "kick" / "Physical") - extended play - released 1982
  • "Deutscher Girls" / "Plastic Surgery" - EG records single - released 1982


No mention of the band's best song and possibly best video Desperate But Not Serious????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.146.159 (talk) 00:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ants albums, from Adam Ant[edit]

Info already on main page, will integrate additional info where useful.Econrad 00:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Remastered CDs - released 2004 and 2005 - all with bonus tracks / demos - previously unreleased material[edit]

  • Dirk Wears White Sox - Remastered
  • Kings of the Wild Frontier - Remastered
  • Prince Charming - Remastered

Videos[edit]

Lavish videos were produced for the Prince Charming singles, including Stand and Deliver, Prince Charming, and Antrap. In the Stand and Deliver video, Adam Ant is dressed as a "dandy highwayman" and generally indulges his exhibitionist tendencies.

Isn't that just opinion? many MANY fans would disagree! Adam and the Ants helped MTV to launch and made some of the most innovative Videos ever to be made. Adam storyboarded them all himself. I'd say Duran Duran videos are far worse and show off-y!

Steve —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SteveHorwood (talkcontribs) 11:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

PS. Well, "Steve"...you are criticising the person who wrote his own "opinion" but then you go and do exactly the same thing yourself by giving a subjective opinion on Duran Duran videos.... "far worse and show off-y".
Hmm... did someone say " duuhhh" ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bibi999 (talkcontribs) 01:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Remasters[edit]

2004 saw the re-release of the album "Prince Charming" as "digitally remastered" and with bonus material in the form of previously unreleased demo and writing tape songs. Interestingly, the credits for the re-release go to, amongs others, two former members of the Ants, namely Marco Pironni and drummer Chris Hughes.

Dirk Wears White Sox and Kings were also released. And Chris Hughes (Merrick) was brought in to help remaster the albums by Marco because he produced the original albums. Marco oversaw the whole project. Adam was either uninterested or unavailable due to recovering from his illness to be involved, and more than likely happy to let Marco take control of the project anway (Marco also oversaw the release of HITS in 1986).

Steve —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steve Horwood (talkcontribs) 11:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


NOTE: GET your facts right before editing this page PLEASE! Stand and deliver was 5 weeks at No.1 in 1981 and NOT 3! In addition, Prince Charming was at No.1 for 4 weeks and not 3! Thank you! See: http://www.onmc.iinet.net.au/top/1981.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bibi999 (talkcontribs) 01:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Merrick[edit]

Under "Kings of the wild frontier" the link under "Merrick" has a mistake. How can Merrick be "born" in 1983 if he was part of Adam and the Ants in 1981! Need to be checked (1) is this the real chris hughes of adam and the ants and (2) if it is can someone find his proper date of birth?

Different Chris Hughes. The Chris Hughes page should itself be a disambiguation page, IMO: the Ant's Chris Hughes is arguably more well known that the "Facebook" Chris Hughes. I will change the link to Chris Hughes (disambiguation) for now; the disambiguation page should probably be moved. Econrad 02:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Jordan[edit]

She wasn't a member of the Bromley Contingent, she lived in Seaford and travelled from there to London for a while to work in the SEX shop before living in London. I removed the Bromley Contingent bit. God knows where people get their "information" from when editing these pages. It pays to actually KNOW what you're talking about surely sometimes.......

Discog[edit]

Added the b sides to the singles in the table and the BBC Sessions to the albums table. Steveant 15:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Vegan[edit]

This band is on the "Vegan Bands" list, but no mention of them being Vegan is listed in the article. Vampus 17:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Name[edit]

Would the name Adam Ant be a play on the word "adamant"? 67.188.172.165 23:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

No!

Steveant (talk) 18:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Early recordings[edit]

This Ants page goes from bad to worse! Lester Square was with the Ants for about 3 days in 1977, he was a member of the B Sides before Adam became "Adam" and started the Ants. Lester isn't on any recording, and he went off to finish his Art degree THEN formed Monochrome Set. Andy Warren joined MS in 1979, after recording Dirk with the Ants.

Steveant (talk) 18:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Lester Square/ early Ants[edit]

The Ants eventually formed in early 1977 consisting of Lester Square (guitar), Andy Warren (bass guitar) and Paul Flanagan (drums). Lester Square left to finish Art school and to later from The Monochrome Set just before the Ants played their first gig on May 5, 1977, at Muswell Hill.[1]. Mark Ryan replaced him on guitar and played the first gigs and recorded 'Plastic Surgery' (along with a few other unreleased demos) until he was replaced by Johnny Bivouac in October 1977. [2]

I posted this part. This page (http://www.hiljaiset.sci.fi/punknet/ants_e.htm) is wrong.

Steveant (talk) 05:02, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Major Cleanup Needed[edit]

This article needs a major cleanup, sources, pictures, audio clips, renaming sub titles ect, ect. Sadly I don't have the time myself as I'm a hard working school student. If anyone is interested please take care of the issue, still retain old sentences but add more info (but it has to have proper sources). Please help, this is an article which should get alot ore work on, as it could become a great one! Please, please someone help cleanup the article. Dirtyharry1994 (talk) 03:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I will endeavor to do a lot of work on this as I agree it really has potential. I have a lot of sources to work from as well. Red Gown 00:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Gown (talkcontribs)

As part of this can we merge the 'Members' and 'Former Members' headings in the Info box at the top? As the group has not existed for many years surely all of them are now 'former members'? Peteinterpol (talk) 10:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)