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Heigh of the city[edit]

Please stop speculating with being the first 2nd, 3rd, or whatever city in the world, just put the right the real number and that's it, because, La Paz, Quito, and Bogotá, are higher than Addis Ababa, so I will remove the Xrd highest. That's all.190.139.209.93 (talk) 02:08, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Name of city[edit]

Addis Ababa is an Amharic name of the city. The original name is Finfinne. User:172.162.147.208

This is mentioned in the "History" section. I removed the parentheses. I've also added a bit about the recent decision to move the Oromia capital from Adama back to Addis. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:51, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Actually Finfinne was originally a separate city from Addis Abeba (a more correct spelling), but was eventually incorporated by the latter's spread. I can't find a source very quickly, so I might be wrong, though.
Yom 22:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The official spelling of Addis Ababa is actually Addis Ababa, the reference made to the Ethiopian Mapping institute is actually wrong. it should be (sometimes spelled as Addis Abeba unofficially.  ::Nolawip

Are we going to do something about the spelling?::Nolawip

Finfinne is the Oromo name of the locality where the hot "finfinne mineral springs" were located" near the river of the same name. There was no city at this place before Empress Taytu built her house near the springs which she liked to use for therapudic bathing. The city was born on this locality and spread across the entire hilly plateau that included the Kebena, Akaki and Finfinne rivers. Finfinne was the small district around what is know today in Amharic as "Fil woha" or "Boiling Water" district of the capital, extending up to the old Imperial Palace, and down through the National/Jubilee Palace to Maskal Square. Other parts of the modern city of Addis Ababa had other names such as Kolfe, Arada, Kotebe etc. In recent years, Oromos have insisted on refering to the entire city as Finfinne, in recognition of the fact that the city was established in a locality by that name.

Addis Ababa in the art[edit]

Offering a theme about Аddys-Аbeba in the art! So I want to suggest to add translation of verses of the Great Russian poet Nikolay Gumilyov(the Russian officer volunteer of times of Menelek II). Addis Ababa is the city of roses, to shores of the clean brooks, Celestial Jean brought you, Diamond among cheerless canyons.

Armide's garden where pilgrim, So keeps the vow of mysterious love, All we admire before him! There aroma of red roses.

There get to the soul somebody's look, Complete sweet of charms, In gardens of highest sycamores, and shady avenues - platanus. Sergeispb-10 (talk) 20:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Population?[edit]

This article states 2,757,729 and "four million" as the population of Addis Ababa. Which is correct?  :: Salvo (talk) 12:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I did a pupil's exercise, and counted an average of 40- 50 roofs per hectare from google Earth, over some seven hectares identified using the ruler provided by the same programme. I evaluated my own way the town covered area, at the densities I see clearly form the satellite photoes in high definition, at a radius of around 7kms. Putting the logic number anyone living here knows of at least seven people living under a roof, plus one or two servants per household, six to seven millions makes sense, definitely no less. The reasons for diminishing the number of Addis Ababa residents are too sensitive to comment on. Salvo, a lot more than four millions, you can be assured! Let me try to be as clear as I may without soliciting unwanted attention from local authorities. See Kabul, supposedly contesting Addis the position of the bigget capital of a landlocked Country, via google earth: its two lobes can easily be inscribed in... roughly half of Addis!!! Either Karzhai needed a huge population in his capital for potential vote count reasons, or, as Addis was largely a political problem to the ruling party in 2007, numbers have been largely downplayed for the Ethiopian capital case. Again, as a very coarse estimation tool, supposing Kabul is actually populated by around 3 million people, area confrontation presuming similar densities brings to an estimate of around seven million for Addis Ababa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.72.14 (talk) 05:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC) --Marcoetio (talk) 21:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Page Move[edit]

Yom, in my opinion, you should have sought consensus for such a move. I believe I read on some other page where someone else (Gyrofrog?) was also advising you to seek consensus first. There is a fairly rigid policy on Wikipedia about using the normal English spelling, which is Addis Ababa. I also prefer this spelling. I realise of course that Addis Abeba is a more accurate phonetic representation. One reason many people find it objectionable is because that is the Italian spelling, and the one always seen on Italian maps of Italian East Africa. So I would prefer to see the article returned to Addis Ababa, and you could always follow procedure and put up a "Requested page move", where people have a certain number of days to vote on the issue. With regards, ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 18:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it may have been BanyanTree who brought it up. But I'd like to weigh in and suggest that "Addis Ababa", in spite of the inaccuracy, is a better name for this article. I occasionally see "Addis Abeba" in English but FWIW I see the wrong spelling much more often. I think it would have been better to simply explain the spelling issue in the article itself. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
An additional problem is that even official Ethiopian documents in English do not spell the name of this city -- or many Ethiopian place names -- consistently. I have my suspicions why this is so, but for whatever reason this is an important point. -- llywrch 17:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
User:Codex Sinaiticus is quite right. Most people avoid using the more phonetically correct form of "Addis Abeba" because it is how the Italians prefered to spell it. Considering that the fascists committed mass murder in the city, it is not suprising that Ethiopians would reject this form and prefer Addis Ababa. Infact most Addis Ababans prefer to contract the name and call it "Addis Aba" (the b is pronounced softly). Sendeq 18:50 May 4, 2006

Recent additions[edit]

Feqade (Codex) recently reverted the edits of User:Classof2006smr, but I'm not sure we should revert them wholesale. The only nonsense seems to be his claim that Haile Selassie was a Rastafarian; while there's a lot of irrelavant information in there (often times more appropriate for the Italian East Africa article or History of Ethiopia), there's plenty of information that can and should be incorporated (provided we can specifcally find the sources he uses, aside from just putting "United Nations." The urbanization and population growth was taken from here. The Climate info comes from the FDRE (which we're already using), while the Topography comes from here, which is a subsection of the Library of Congress's country study on Ethiopia (so reliable). The University info (as well as the irrelevant Primary & Secondary schools) seems to come from Wikipedia articles on the subject (as does the Merkato info); the Dembel City center info comes from an Addis Tribune article, which is a reliable newspaper.

I think we should examine more of the additions, affirm that they are germane and correct, and slowly incorporate them.

Yom 19:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Economy?[edit]

Economy section is all wrong. Farming is done outside of the city. The customers live in the city. The section needs to be changed. --McTrixie 11:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The government has long encouraged, for example, milk production INSIDE A.A.town. There are currently an estimated 180,000 litres of milk produced in town, far more than the whole town belt, of say 50 kms beyond Debre Zeyt. It will change in a future, Addis is still, rather incredibly, a very significant food producing area! --Marcoetio (talk) 21:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Article Expansion[edit]

It is time for this article to be expanded. I want to start by adding the information (in a more presentable form and not all at once) from my earlier update. Feel free to critque it in any way productive way you feel, but remember that this article needs more information.

Classof2006smr 19:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. Most of your information was good, but it also had many errors (such as stating that Haile Selassie was Rastafarian). It would be best to add them one at a time per section with copy-editing of the earlier addition, rather than replacing large sections of texts. — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 19:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Of course. My first post was merely an amateur test of adding to this page. Although I still can be considered a beginner in regards to making or editing articles, I think that with some effort it shouldn't be too hard. I will be sure to add to the article piece by piece. Classof2006smr 06:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


I do dispute most of the facts in this article, but I am a Novice in wiki, how do I make edits to the article! meaning is there information on disputing facts? etc Nolawip —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolawip (talkcontribs) 15:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

When you're at the article page, click the button at the top that says "edit this page." If you want to narrow down the area you are editing, you can click on the small blue [edit] buttons at the top of each section. As for disputing facts, if the fact is cited with a reliable source, then you can add the {{dubious}} tag at the end of the sentence and explain why you added it on the talk page. If it is uncited altogether, you can either remove it, or add {{cn}} at the end of the sentence (alternatively {{fact}}), meaning "citation needed" (which is what will appear in superscript at the end of the sentence). — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 23:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Government[edit]

The Government section should really be about the structure and nature of Addis's city council, etc. Currently it's a short article about former mayor, Arkebe Oqubay. Is he maybe worthy of his own Wikipedia entry too? Dancarney 13:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he does, he was its mayor for a while, as well as a senior member of the TPLF. He did originally have his own article, but because it remained a stub for a long time, it was deleted and the information merged into this article. — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 23:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking good. Thanks for those who made the change on the Spelling. ::Nolawip —Preceding comment was added at 22:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this now out of date? The current Mayor of Addis is Kuma Demekissa. Addis Ababa, May 20, 2008 (Addis Ababa) - Inaugural conference of the Addis Ababa City Administrative Council on Tuesday elected Kuma Demekissa as Mayor, and Kefiyalew Azeze as Deputy Mayor of the metropolis.

See Ethiopian News Agnecy for further info: http://www.ena.gov.et/EnglishNews/2008/May/20May08/58205.htm This also needs to be updated in the box on the right hand side. Flipflops800 (talk) 14:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Addis abeba is the most beautifull city on the world! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.237.77 (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Lideta[edit]

Judging from Google maps (for example, embedded in this web page), Lideta Airport is no longer a functioning airport. In the satellite photo it appears that a lot of vehicles are being stored there, and that part of the runway has been torn up. I can't find anything that actually says it's closed, though. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Coordinate error[edit]

The coordinates need the following fixes:

  • I'm trying to focus the Addis Ababa coordinates. When I click on the globe there are two locations labeled "Addis Ababa" on the map. The coordinates can't be nailed down until this is fixed. Thank you very much!

 —  Paine's Climax  22:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

The coordinates have been focused on the southernmost position that is labeled "Addis Ababa". That's the correct position. The second and northernmost position that is labeled "Addis Ababa" must be removed from the map. Thank you!
 —  Paine's Climax  04:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Hm...was there at one point 2 different coordinates for the city? The only thing I can think of is that the map is old by several days/weeks/months depending on when there were two sets of coordinates. I don't know. SpencerT♦Nominate! 19:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Maybe so, Spencer, I wish I had a clue. However, I believe I have found the experts, and they are working on it. Take a look at this discussion and especially this talk with "Colossus", who apparently can make direct changes to the toolserver maps. Thank you very much for taking an interest!
 —  Paine's Climax  19:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Notable people[edit]

What's the scope of the list in the "Notable people" section? Is it notable people actually born in the city? Or is it notable people who have lived in the city? If it's the latter, we would potentially have an extremely long list. I'd venture to say that most notable Ethiopians have lived in Addis at one time or another. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:59, 19 June 2013 (UTC)