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Picture request of Adelaide's night skyline??[edit]

It would be good if someone could add a pic/paranormic photo of Adelaide's night skyline from the Adelaide Hills. RaptorRobot 10:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

There are already enough photos in the article, including this night skyline.--cj | talk 19:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Cyberjunkie, no there nots. Of at least we need an update because the city skyline in changing with those new buildings being built.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.160.133.39 (talkcontribs) 15:30, 9 April 2007 (ACST.

Yes, the night skyline photo I referred to two months ago has now been removed because of an inappropriate license. As for a new photo of the skyline, you're welcome to go take one and upload it. --cj | talk 06:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Coordinates[edit]

Could some one possibly find out the Degrees, Minutes and Seconds for Adelaide and fix them as most other Major Australian cities are in DMS???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.158.45.83 (talk) 08:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Click on the link and scroll down to the table to find the coordinates translated into several formats and coordinate systems. --Scott Davis Talk 10:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

State Flag[edit]

Does anyone have a better image of the state flag?

The current one, particularly the piping shriker image, looks positively amatuerish, and the colors look wrong too.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fashion cadaver (talkcontribs) 11:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Southern Ocean?[edit]

The second sentence in this article starts like this: "It is a coastal city beside the Southern Ocean,"... I changed this in ..."beside the Indian Ocean"... A few hours later I was reverted with the comment that Australians still perceive it as the Southern Ocean. That doesn't seem to be very NPOV to me.

I do not doubt that Australians perceive it as such (I have travelled extensively in Australia), but when you click through to Southern Ocean the article states that this ocean ends at 60° S. Adelaide does not lie between the South Pole and 60° S.

I believe my change was correct, but the article should also state that many Australians do not agree with the fact that Adelaide sits beside the Indian Ocean. WHB 11:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

It's actually more than just a cultural perception. Cartographically, the expanse of water from Australia's southern bounds is still annotated as the Southern Ocean. Indeed, in at least Western Australia and Tasmania (I am unable to confirm for South Australia as yet), this sea area is officially gazetted as the Southern Ocean.--cj | talk 14:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation. Shouldn't the article then explain that from the Australian viewpoint Adelaide does border the Southern Ocean, but for (most of) the rest of the world it borders the Indian Ocean? WHB 19:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually it's on Gulf St. Vincent. But that's beside te point. As far as I know, the Southern Ocean is a somewhat arbitrary concept - Some say it exists, others prefer to say South Atlantic, South Pacific and Indian oceans. It's particularly ambiguous in Adelaide's case, as the city is about equidistant from the undisputied Indian and Pacific oceans. I favour using the "Southern Ocean."--Yeti Hunter 23:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Adelaidians (?) and Australians, perhaps unfortunately due to the common usage on Australian maps, no more "get to decide" the name of the oceans of the world than do the people of, say, Chile, who refuse to use "Pacific" and have their own name for it on all their maps. The group that does is the IHO (see the WP Southern Ocean article for references....the Adelaide article should not be cluttered with IHO references, I should think!) .
For good or bad (bad if you're a fan of Australian maps and terminology), they have decided that Australia is a continent sitting in the Indian Ocean, with the Pacific along its eastern side. They publish this with carefully delineated borders for these water bodies (see that mentioned in the WP Great Australian Bight article. So, certainly not for Australian use, but for a worldwide English enclopedia, its "Indian Ocean", not "Southern Ocean." The IHO very clearly ruled (after a vote of member nations) that the "Southern Ocean" stops at 60 degrees south, and north of that its the Indian Ocean. Not debatable, unless you want to try to overturn the worldwide and WP-wide acceptance of the IHO as the authority on these matters. Water bodies that Australia does not share with other nations are a different matter, of course. This is how world geographers (and the IHO) avoid having several names for various sides of various oceans. Having done the South Coast Track in Tasmania and looking southwest off the cliffs (an amazing place; huge old growth trees, remote beaches) and saying something to a local about the big Indian Ocean waves and getting an incredulous stare, I know this doesn't make sense locally.....But it's an international encyclopedia.DLinth 18:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately the IHO did not clearly rule. The vote was split 50/50. Half voted for 60 degrees and the other half voted for various parts of the Australian coast. Because of this the boundary has never been officially adopted, so technically, according to the IHO the ocean does not exist at all. IHO member countries are in effect permitted to define their own boundaries for the Southern Ocean meaning there are many "offical" boundaries with 60°S, 40°S, 35°S and no such ocean existing at all being the most common. For example Oceanographers world wide consider the Subtropical Front (where cold antarctic water meets warm subtropical water and thus the most logical boundary) the boundary of the Southern Ocean and this is 40°S. Australia recognises it as bordering our coastline (and bordering the Indian Ocean at Cape Leeuwin), using the Oceanographers definition it does (with the Great Australian Bight wedged between the coast and the ocean). There can be only one of two positions for "an international encyclopaedia", either what Australia considers the boundary to be or no such thing as the Southern Ocean. As WP already acknowledges it's existence we must use Australia as the boundary perhaps qualifying it with mention that most countries define their own boundary. Wayne 06:55, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Not true. Half voted for 60 degrees, and most of the rest voted for limits very close to that....only a couple (not 14) voted for it to come to the Australian Coast. "IHO member nations are permitted to define their own boundaries" is fiction. Your 40 degree S sentence is also fiction....read the Southern Ocean WP article or other sources....it's the convergence zone at 60, not 40, that most oceanographers and hydrologists use. No, most countries do NOT define the names of oceans next to them; those that try like Chile get no international or WP acceptance at all.
Times Atlas (UK, #1 world atlas), CIA World Fact Book, US Board on Geographic Names, etc., etc., and nearly all non-Australian atlases and maps strictly show the Southern Ocean as below 60 degrees lat. All sources go on and on about it being defined as an ocean due to its hydro characteristics....a cold, polar current circling Antarctica. So 35 degrees south is particularly far "off the charts" in the world's view....that's the same lat. as the Mediterranean! (for a "polar" ocean!??) Seems like all around WP, most atlases, most world maps, the IHO is being given the first and last word on this.DLinth 19:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

As long as Australia is not described as being "in" either the Pacific or Indian oceans, but separating them, I think this is sufficiently accurate. If not, I wonder which oceans the Americas and Africa sit "in" (not separate)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanBrodman (talkcontribs) 06:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Picture of city skyline[edit]

this article on Adelaide is incomplete without a picture of adelaide's city skyline. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.90.188.216 (talk) 05:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

could someone please incorporate a photo of the city skyline in this article.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.90.209.130 (talkcontribs) 04:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC).
If you attain and upload a freely licensed image, we'd be happy to include it.--cj | talk 01:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Here's an old one [1] Foraminifera 11:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Looks like someone on wikipedia is anti-Adelaide removing all good pictures of the city.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.90.219.63 (talkcontribs) 04:38, 23 June 2007 (ACST).
What a nonsense suggestion. Nobody has been removing pictures. Please assume good faith.--cj | talk 06:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I added a photo of the city skyline. I took the photo my self. --Jamiec1962 19:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I Wasn't sure were to place the photo so i just added it to the bottom of the page.--Jamiec1962 19:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Citations[edit]

I've added citations for the Formula 1 moving to Melbourne, and the State Bank collapse. The F1 citation could be better, and the other could possibly be merged with the one from the Economics section. Better than none though. Kevin 01:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Good work :)--cj | talk 02:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Population[edit]

It is not possible that the city of Adelaide, Postcode 5000, has a population of 1.1 million. Even 3,000 would be pushing it. I think it should be mentioned that the 1.1. million encompasses 'X' square kilometers/miles of suburbia as it is otherwise misleading. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.122.240.225 (talkcontribs).

I've added metropolitan area, the same as Sydney and Melbourne. Kevin 08:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
There was never any suggestion that the population was for the city-centre – it's patently clear this article covers the metropolitan area. And, by the way, the city-centre's population is much more than 3,000; it's currently estimated at around 17,000. --cj | talk 09:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

"good article" ??[edit]

How can this article be a "good article" without a picture of the city? Other users on here have also mentioned it but no one seems to care. Can someone please upload a photo of the city?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.90.219.63 (talkcontribs) 04:35, 23 June 2007 (ACST).

Done.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamiec1962 (talkcontribs) 05:15, 23 June 2007 (ACST).
There are several pictures of the city in the article, so your point is moot. If you are unhappy with what's there, fix it yourself.--cj | talk 06:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


The annual sunshine hours are plainly incorrect. There has been error in adding bom stats. Adelaide has at least 2600 hrs to 2700 depending on which weather station. The 2300 mentioned is less than melb and a significant error — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.98.130 (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Linear city[edit]

I removed the claim, "It is roughly a linear city" because Adelaide does not sound anything like that described in the article. It would be better to simply show the shape of the city with a good map delineating its boundaries, rather than trying to describe it in words. -- Beland 18:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

'Towel shaped' is probably the best word. 121.209.49.56 (talk) 06:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Santos[edit]

Are Santos still based in Adelaide now that the tallest building itself, regardless of the residence, has been rebadged from Santos to Westpac? Timeshift 20:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. They moved to the new Flinders Link building on Flinders St along with IAG.--cj | talk 01:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Woodside is actually Australia's largest oil company, not Santos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.38.134.200 (talk) 13:16, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

GA delisted[edit]

Symbol unsupport vote.svg In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. Unfortunately, as of September 16, 2007, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAC. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GA/R.


  • Every statement that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs an inline citation.

Regards, Epbr123 16:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Where can I find a list of things that need to be done to bring the Adelaide article back up to Good Article standard? Orinoco-w (talk) 15:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Ah - I now see the To Do list. Thank you! Orinoco-w (talk) 00:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
  • The main things you'll need to worry about are the GA criteria. But I suspect that the top priority will be referencing. - Bilby (talk) 00:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Map[edit]

Adelaide metropolitan area map.svg

Done one Image:Streetmap of Adelaide and North Adelaide.svg - any thoughts on whether this is usefull for the article and what changes are needed ? - Peripitus (Talk) 10:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Good map — for the article on the CBD. A metropolitan map would be much more useful here. Michael talk 11:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Can do - may take a while as I'm still getting the hang of Illustrator - 11:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Maps so far have been very good, so thanks for putting in the time. I don't think we've got any other SA'n mappers out there. Michael talk 11:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Finished. Needs some more work and I can't work out where in the article it'd go. Thoughts on issues with the map or it's use in the article anyone ? - Peripitus (Talk) 21:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Phone Numbers[edit]

It has been told that Adelaide has run out of 8000 numbers and are now using 7000 numbers (e.g. 7000 0001) From now on, if you apply for a new number, you'll get a 7000 one like mine. The 7000 number is now used in Queensland AND Adelaide. Tom140996 (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

WP Aus B-class assessment[edit]

B class, needs to improve citations, image usage and layout. I also removed an image as its a fair use without rationale IMHO it'd be difficult to justify a FU image of a News report in a city article. Gnangarra 11:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Adelaidean[edit]

Both Melbourne and Sydney mention the term for their residents in the first paragraph. The word Adelaidean is buried in demographics and yet is not immediately obvious. If indeed this is the correct term, then it should be in the introductory paragraph. --CloudSurfer (talk) 11:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

The term Adelaidean is almost unknown in this state. Ask a resident what he is and 99 times out of 100 he will say South Ozzie. This may be because it is almost the same thing. Almost 80% of the states population live in Adelaide and another 10% live within an hours drive. Wayne (talk) 17:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Putting "Sydneysider" in the lead paragraph looks pretty silly to me, a clear case of undue weight to a minor detail. Putting the term in the body of the article, as for Adelaidean, seems about right. Peter Ballard (talk) 23:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

isn't the term Radelaidean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.242.104 (talk) 17:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC) Not unless this is the reference to the current SA Premier, Mike Rann.Boron eye (talk) 11:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Climate averages table is very inaccurate[edit]

The monthly average data is inaccurate and should be removed until such a time as it is replaced.

58.105.58.21 (talk) 22:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC) Dan M

Coordinates[edit]

Please note that the coordinates in this article need fixing as: 35 degrees south

There does not to mind appear to be anything wrong with the co-ordinates. -- Mattinbgn\talk 20:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Agree with Mattinbgn; the coordinates mark a point on the east side of Vic Sq near the Catholic cathedral. 35 degrees south runs south of Centenial Park Cemetery, Windy Point and the Belair Triangle. (i.e. About 10km south of the centre of the city.) Pdfpdf (talk) 08:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

IPA[edit]

I want to know how "Adelaide" pronounces in IPA. A transliteration problem about the name occurs on our language of Wikipedia. --Octra Bond (talk) 04:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not very good with IPA so there's a decent chance I'm wrong -- I'm working off of Wikipedia:IPA for English -- but I'd say it's ædəleɪd. — maestrosync talk — 04:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Sounds about right to me. -- Mattinbgn\talk 04:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be more like ædleɪd? ("ad-laid" - only non Adelaideans call it "ad-el-ade"). Pdfpdf (talk) 04:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, it's a schwa, not a full-on 'e'. I'm pretty sure most people, including Adelaideans, pronounce it with three syllables. — maestrosync talk — 04:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Why are you "pretty sure"?
The song goes:
wear the pride of south oz traaay li-a
wear the migh tee Ad-laide Crows
(Though I do concede that people from Ad-laide do tend to call themselves A-de-lay-de-ans.)
Yes, most people NOT from SA pronounce it A-del-aide, A-de-laide, Ad-e-laide Ad-el-aide, even Ad-del-laide. But not most of the locals.
(Maybe they teach you to ennunciate clearly at your school? Certainly my daughters pronounce it with 3 syllables, but I don't think you would classify them with "most Adelaideans".)
[Similarly, other locals call places Mel-bn (not Mel-bourne) and Syn-ney (not Syd-ney). I've even heard foreigners pronounce it Syd-en-ney, though I can't imagine why.]
I'll look around and see if I can find something more objective. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Definitely "a-de-laide" (or maybe "ad-e-laide"), three syllables. In my experience the "ad-laide" pronunciation is only used in verse where it must be two syllables, a la The Pride of South Australia. Not sure where to find a cite for this, though. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 16:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmmm. First a "sounds about right", then a "pretty sure", and now a "Definitely". I think it might be time for me to "cut my losses"! And I agree - I'm "Not sure where to find a cite for this". But never-the-less, I'll continue to look around for a bit longer. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 22:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks all above comments --Octra Bond (talk) 15:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation: ae'dahley.d or A-dahl-aid (if you want the 3 syllables) and it rhymes with accolade. Repeat Adalaide/accolade (substitute an a for the e) quickly several times and you will get the local pronunciation. Wayne (talk) 17:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
To mis-quote Prof Henry Higgins, "I think he's got it!" Pdfpdf (talk) 10:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Main picture[edit]

The main picture is very hard to see. Before I signed up there was a better picture with the convention centre in it. What happened to that? I am new here, sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seven Senses (talkcontribs) 05:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Which do you class as "the main pictute"? This one? Image:AdelaideSkylineLightsview.jpg
Is this: Image:Adelaide Convention Centre.jpg the better picture? If so, it's here: Adelaide#Economy.
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be better at the top. There is an image of the city from the Adelaide Hills somewhere. What about that one? Seven Senses (talk) 07:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
I will get a better photo sometime soon.normangerman (talk) 05:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
That's much better. Seven Senses (talk) 00:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Seven Senses: (Or anyone else, for that matter.) You may find Category:Images of Adelaide Skyline interesting. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

GAN[edit]

Could this article possibly become a GA in the near future. It looks fairy well organised and well written. Aaroncrick (Tassie Talk) 00:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyone?..... Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 05:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
This is the diff between the current article and the article from Jan 28th (a day after it was removed from GA). I'll admit I haven't really had a good look at the article, but running through the diffs it doesnt really look like many, if any inline refs have been added, which was cited as the main reason for the delisting. Having a quick look through the article, I'd agree with that assessment. It's pretty thorough, though some of the information may be a bit trivial in the context of a large city - and most of the existing refs are to verify these tidbits. The main body of the article needs a lot more inlines, though most will probably be able to be cited to a small number of good sources like histories. Once inline citations are adequate, I think GA is very attainable. Still, it's a big article and will need a lot of refs (and existing ones checked for deadlinks). It'd be good if a few editors would agree to each tackle a segment. I'd be happy to do the "history".--Yeti Hunter (talk) 07:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

There was a group pact on the new year of 2008 to get all the capital cities and states and territories to FA/GA but nothing happened. Maybe it's time to revive it? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 07:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I think so.. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
In fact, I think it's so close to GA anyway (its essentially a formatting issue) that we might as well push for WP:FAC. For this we'll need a better lead image (taken from a similar position on a clear day with a big lens), a few subheadings and a bit of rewriting in the history section (it's a bit of a slab of text right now), and of course all the refs. There haven't really been any ongoing disputes that I'm aware of.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 01:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sister cities?[edit]

Why arent the sister cities of adelaide put up on this page? They were added but removed by user CJ because s/he stated that the cities of Wuhan, Austin, Christchurch, Georgetown and Himeji were sister cities of the city of adelaide (5000) not the metro area of adelaide. however all of the formention cities have links to this page as the sister city of their city rather than the City of Adelaide. i think that this is the page that should show adelaide's sister cities rather than that of the City of Adelaide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.1.196 (talk) 12:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

They are sisters of the "City of Adelaide", not the Adelaide Metropolitan area. (I guess I'll manually have to go and change all the sister city pages.) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
What evidence/citations do you have that they are sisters of city of adelaide rather than of adelaide? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.1.196 (talk) 15:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

This is a joke. Councils may create the sister city relationships but those relationships are not between the councils but the greater metropolitan areas! How can a council of 20,000 people, roughly the size of Murray Bridge, have a sister relationship with Houston? Or Chinese cities of over 5 million? Thejoebloggsblog (talk) 12:00, 5 November 2014 (UTC) Quit trolling.

Sorry, what's your point? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

We have the same situation as Melbourne yet we cannot choose the correct decision? In Himeji the footpath has plaques for al its sister cities and for Adelaide it says Adelaide! Not "The City of Adelaide" or the "City of Adelaide council". It is a disgrace that we dont have our sister cities shown on this page. Thejoebloggsblog (talk) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Again, what's your point? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

This is reconcilable considering councils have sister councils ala Brooklyn#Partnerships_with_districts_of_foreign_cities Thejoebloggsblog (talk) 13:10, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

And again, what's your point? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
See City of Adelaide > Explore the City > City Information > Sister Cities for the current list of sister cities of the City of Adelaide. I've just checked some other council websites and apart from the City of Playford > Business Relations with China, the concept of sister cities seems to have largely dropped out of fashion. Bahudhara (talk) 13:39, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Terminology- "province"[edit]

In the introduction, the use of the word "province" for the state of South Australia is wrong.

South Australia, like all the other states of Australia, were "colonies" until federation on 1-1-1901. None of them have ever been known as "provinces".

Was the author of this article Australian? It seems such a strange error to make. Maybe he/she thinks we are the Canada of the south. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanBrodman (talkcontribs) 06:28, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I initially thought this too but the Proclamation of South Australia defined it as a province. Further digging makes it even murkier; there are references to SA 'reverting' to a crown colony in 1842, but I can't seem to find a decent reference or explanation for this. Time to find a good SA history book I think! haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 02:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
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Aerial photo overlay[edit]

Hello all,

Now that the article has a good aerial photograph Adelaide DougBarber.jpg, does anyone fancy having a go at creating a legend for it using the Overlay template? It could be used in the same way it was in the Brisbane article. Cheers - Gobeirne (talk) 19:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Ugg boots from Adelaide, 1965[edit]

Just came across an interesting detail from Adelaide. Appears that ugg boots were first created by an Adelaidean in the 1960s! Still trying to get cross-confirmation from other sources though. See comment by User:Daveosaurus. Btw, if anyone else is interested in helping getting a more balanced perspective in the Ugg boots article, please step forward. The article has been targeted by the overseas holder of trademark 'ugg' (not recognised in Australia) which is determined to add a commercial bias. Donama (talk) 06:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

citation[edit]

third paragraph contains a citation needed followed by a citation. why? is this citation not good enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Altormainstream (talkcontribs) 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's been fixed now. Donama (talk) 02:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Indeedy it has. Altormainstream (talk) 07:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

China town[edit]

I think it is Australian city. On this page are few photos and you wouldn't place photo of china town because it is small enclave and Australians live in this country and Adelaide. chinese are small grup they have your country and cities and they have enclave in many parts of world. According to me photo of china town is unusual. 62.141.209.167 (talk) 14:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you suggesting we remove the picture? Because a 'Chinese culture enclave' is not representative of Adelaide? As a resident it does make sense to me to have a picture of Chinatown (otherwise known as Moonta St) here because it's a well-known food/restaurant and entertainment precinct in the city. Donama (talk) 02:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I think we should remove this photo because it looks horrible on page about Adelaide 62.141.209.167 (talk) 14:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear 62.141.209.167
  • Please do NOT put a space at the start of the line of your postings.
  • Please DO sign your postings with 4"~" (i.e. ~~~~). This lets us know who said what, and when they said it.
Getting to the point: Am I correct in saying that you think that this photo:Adelaide Chinatown.jpg "looks horrible"? Really? Both Donama and I do not necessarily agree with you. We have both read what you have written, and don't really understand the point you are presenting. Do you think you could clarify your statement for us? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't see what is hard to understand about the question itself. He/she doesn't believe a picture of a small part of Adelaide is relevant to Adelaide as a whole, so doesn't think it should be in the article. I disagree, however. Just because it is not a significant or large part of Adelaide, that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. The Sydney article has an image of the suburb of Cabramatta in the demographics section, pointing out it is home to a large proportion of Vietnamese. Surely there are many places around the world that have area's home to a large number of Vietnamese people, and not the only part of Sydney to have a large proportion of people of a certain group. That doesn't mean the image should be removed.
In short, I don't think it should be removed. Anoldtreeok (talk) 10:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I think Australian culture is completely other than Chinese and photos of Chinese culture unnecessary. Photos of Chinese culture schould be in the articles about China. I saw that similar photos are in articles about other Australian cities. According to me it shouldn't be. We can't live without Chinese product and I think We should not let for dominance of Chinese for example in wikipedia. We ourselves create domination of Chinese. About Adelaide are few photos and it shows culture of Australia because Chinese in Australia are minority. A lot of cities in the world have china towns. I think it is strange you dont't agree with me. 62.141.209.167 (talk) 12:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I think we are all very interested by your point of view, but disagree. "Chinatown" is a part of Adelaide, just like Victoria Square and the Adelaide Oval are. We see no reason to remove ANY of those three. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
(P.S. As I said before: Please DO sign your postings with 4"~" (i.e. ~~~~). This lets us know who said what, and when they said it.)
In my opinion Australian culture is completely other than Chinese. You must agree with me at this point. Less intelligent users can think when he see this photo that in Australia is chinese culture and most people in Australia are Chinese and Australian culture is same as Chinese. I agree that is part of Adelaide but in article about Australian city shouldn't be photo about chinese and their culture. 62.141.209.167 (talk) 15:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
No, I disagree. Australian culture is not quite as homogenous as you seem to think. Donama (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
But it is not under the absolute domination of Chinese and for me it is very strange placing this photo on this page. Is it not enough you that Chinese are everything. We ourselves create this domination for example we place photo of this culture on page about Australian cities. You should remove it. 62.141.209.167 (talk) 12:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
We all thank you for explaining your opinion to us, but we all disagree with you.
It is just one picture on a page containing many pictures. The many other pictures clearly illustrate that Adelaide is NOT under chinese domination; they illustrate that Moonta Street is just one small and unusual street in Adelaide.
"in Australia is chinese culture and most people in Australia are Chinese and Australian culture is same as Chinese." - Not at all. The fact that it is only one picture of many indicates that: most of Adelaide culture is NOT Chinese; most of of Adelaide is NOT under Chinese domination.
"for example we place photo of this culture on page about Australian cities" - No. The picture was taken by an Australian from Adelaide, and placed on the page by an Australian from Adelaide.
"You should remove it." - No. For all the reasons given above, we should NOT remove it.
Never-the-less, thank you for explaining your opinion to us. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
That is one small part of city but it shows chinese culture you should place other photos for example adelaide oval, Victoria Square. In my opinion you make huge mistake. 62.141.209.167 (talk) 19:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
That is one small part of city - Yes, we've all said that.
but it shows chinese culture - Yes, we've all said that too.
you should place other photos for example adelaide oval, Victoria Square. - We have:
The General Post Office (left) and Treasury buildings (right) on Victoria Square, 1950.
Adelaide Oval during a cricket match in 2006.

That's why I mentioned them. (i.e. because they are already on the page.)
In my opinion you make huge mistake. - Yes, we know you think that.
What we don't understand is WHY you think that.
We have all gone to quite a bit of effort to try to explain to you why we think differently from you.
And you have been quite thorough in making sure we are aware that you are unhappy.
But I'm afraid that I don't really understand just what it is that you are unhappy about.
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:57, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't have much to add, except that it is under the demographics heading. The picture represents a particular demographic within Adelaide. The rest of the article has pictures relating to the various aspects of Australia within Adelaide, to me it seems logical to put an image like this under the demographics heading. Anoldtreeok (talk) 14:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea if you were in Adelaide but I haven never been in Adelaide. When I see this photo I imagine Adelaide as Chinese city. This is caused by you. You cheat most users of wikipedia and everybody imagine Adelaide as Chinese city. Cheers 62.141.209.167 (talk) 19:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Every one here has been very patient with you, but I think patience has run out. To be blunt, if you look at the mix of photos on this article and picture Adelaide as a Chinese city, then the problem is with you. Every photo on this article, even the one showing the entrance to Chinatown, shows mainly European style architecture or people of clearly European descent. While others have been polite, it seems clear to me that you have some problem with this article reflecting the fact that Adelaide has a Chinese community. Why that is, I don't know but it has a whiff of racism - one way or the other. Finally, the Melbourne article also has a picture of its Chinatown, and Sydney has a picture of an entrance to its Vietnamese district. However, to conclude from those photos that Melbourne is a Chinese city and Sydney is a Vietnamese city you would have to wilfully suspend any rational thought processes. This discussion has gone on long enough - I do not believe your concerns are genuine. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 21:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
And I'll throw in one last point I don't think has been mentioned yet. The text in the article makes it clear Adelaide isn't a Chinese city. I mean, it doesn't blatantly say "Adelaide isn't a Chinese city", but it explains its demographics, which gives the image context. Anoldtreeok (talk) 23:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I write about Adelaide but I am not happy very much that articles about Sydney and Melbourne are similar photos because on one article about Australian city can be photo of China town. Photos of china town and districts which are on Sydney article and Melbourne article. It is too much photos of China town on articles about Australian cities. I can accept photo on Adelaide article but that you place similar photos on articles about Sydney and Melbourne. We can't say that Australia is China but photos of China town on articles about 3 Australian cities suggest it. I like Chines but photos of this culture can be placed on articles about Chinese cities. Cheers 62.141.209.167 (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I think Chinese are mionority in Australia. You placed few photos of Adelaide and why did you placed photo of China Town. China town are in a lot of cities in the world for example: London, Toronto. Cheers Revision as of 03:15, 12 December 2010 62.141.215.28

Here's my opinion, for what it's worth. I've lived in three states in this country and found chinatowns in the capital cities of each. In each, chinatown is more than just a Chinese town. It is a shopping attraction. It is a dining mecca (especially in Adelaide where it is conveniently beside Central Market). It is a tourist attraction. It is an area with history. It is very much a part of the city in which it is located. It is also an area most likely to be noted on tourist maps (my opinion based on experience). Chinatown, in my view, is just as representative of the capital city in which it is located as the plethora of Chinese restaurants in Australia are representative of the Australian diet. I see no reason to remove a picture of Chinatown.--~ ~ : Lincoln Cooper : ~ ~ (talk) 01:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Culture and architecture of Australia representative this country. Architecture, art and culture of China representative China. It is my opinion. Revision as of 23:01, 13 December 2010 62.141.215.28
With all respect, whether and to what degree the image in question represents Australian culture is, I believe, irrelevant. As it happens, I believe that it is representative of Australian culture but, just as this article is not about Australian culture, nor is this talk page the forum for such a discussion.
Aside from any copyright issue, I think there is one simple test on whether to include it; namely, Does the image depict a readily recognisable feature in Adelaide? My view is that it does, on the grounds that most people who regularly frequent the city know of it and can give directions to it. Less relevantly, I've also known people (myself included) to use it as a landmark when informing friends of where to meet each other.
Nonetheless, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect your right to express it. In future, though, I must insist that you please be so kind to add your opinions in a new paragraph to avoid them getting mixed in with others'. Additionally, please sign your comments either by entering four tildes (the '~' sign on your keyboard) or by clicking the signature and timestamp button above the editing box. Thank you and regards --~ ~ : Lincoln Cooper : ~ ~ (talk) 13:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Dear 62.141.209.167, 62.141.213.8 and 62.141.215.28.
You have asked the same or similar questions several times, and have got the same or similar very polite answers from a variety different of people, several times.
Hence, WE ALL KNOW YOUR OPINION. And also, WE ALL DISAGREE WITH YOU. (Also, PLEASE SIGN YOUR MESSAGES WITH 4~.)
If any of the above sentences are NOT clear, please do not hesitate to ask for clarification, and one of us will happily do so.
But please, do not continue to repeat yourself (yourselves?) and please do not continue to ignore our replies. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:43, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You are stupid people you placed photo of china town because Australia is not China and you should place more photo which show Australian culture in Adelaide. Yours faithully. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.141.218.198 (talkcontribs) 21:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. Given your level of civility and the fact you've clearly not listened to the conversation above, we'll be sure to ignore it. Donama (talk) 23:07, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You've got to be kidding me. Here I thought that it was a fly-by IP that was removing the Chinatown photo in recent days for whatever reason. But the whole time, it's part of a wider campaign to have the Adelaide article look all anglo-saxon and misrepresentative. Incredible.

Wikipedia works off consensus. We have a consensus to have the photo there. If you don't like it, you're welcome to your views but it is not a consensus view. The photo stays. Timeshift (talk) 23:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Well those last 4 edits constitute disruptive editing for which the IP could be banned instead. Doesn't help if that individual doesn't use a static IP though I guess. Donama (talk) 04:17, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
If it gets to the point that blocks aren't working then it would be likely that it will be semi protected from IP's and new accounts. Bidgee (talk) 04:39, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
This photo isn't from Adelaide!!! This photo was taken in Bejing!!!! You have placed photo from Bejing in article about Adelaide!!!! This is huge mistake!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.141.216.6 (talk) 10:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Clearly our IP is taking the piss. I suggest any further submissions on this issue be removed from the talk page per WP:TALK ("removing trolling" being the relevant passage).--Yeti Hunter (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree, it's no longer a dispute but just pure disruption. After rolling back the IP's latest disruption, I reported them to WP:AIV and pointed out that they has also been edit warring against and established consensus (and linked to this section). The IP has been blocked for 72 hours, but if they pop-up again I think some long term semi-protection maybe in order! Bidgee (talk) 22:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
The bizarre bit about all this is that the person's quirky standard of English suggests a person from the Asian region, my guess is it's some obscure intra-regional racism which for some reason has found its way to this little quiet corner. Whatever way, it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. And to the IP, for the most part, "Chinatown" is nothing to do with China - certainly in Perth where I live, the preponderance of those one sees around Chinatown are "Overseas Chinese" from South-East Asia whose ancestral link to China, if one even exists, would probably be dozens of generations back. Orderinchaos 21:29, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Why have you placed this photo in article about Queen Charlotte?! Article about Queen Charlotte has the same connection with this photo as article about Adelaide. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.141.215.217 (talk) 15:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC) I can't unterstand you. We should create Australian culture in article about city of Australia. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.141.215.217 (talk) 17:33, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe the Chinatown image is getting removed again. Why? Can we temporarily get IP protection on this page? Timeshift (talk) 02:49, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Streets template for Adelaide streets, lanes terraces[edit]

I've been drafting a template here to put at the bottom of article about the streets in the Adelaide CBD grid. Suggestions? Should we include notable lanes or North Adelaide also? It is based on the one used for Melbourne Hoddle grid, which is at the bottom of the Melbourne CBD street articles. Feel welcome to pitch in and edit there. Donama (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I would support expanding it to include all of Light's Vision (ie, North Adelaide and parklands too). You could simply add another section for "North Adelaide" and "Parklands". In fact, it might be better to categorise them by street type, ie "Streets" (which are within the city plan), "Terraces" (which border onto parkland), "Roads" (which transit the Parklands), "Drives" (which go through the Parklands via the "scenic route", eg Plane Tree Drive, War Memorial Drive...) and "Squares" (self explanatory). "Streets" could then be further divided into east-west and north-south sections. If there are any notable lanes, I'd support their inclusion too.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 11:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I think there's already a template for squares and parks of Adelaide and North Adelaide, so might need to look at merger with that one. Donama (talk) 22:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Adelaidean (again)[edit]

The reference provided http://www.adelaide.edu.au/adelaidean does not show that a resident of Adelaide is an Adelaidean. It is a University of Adelaide publication so if it demonstrates anything it is that a graduate or student at Adelaide University is an Adelaidean. If the term "Adelaidean" was a common term (by "common" I mean common enough to warrant it being in the lead), a clear and unambiguous reference would be easy to find. I'll add it's waaaaay out of balance putting it in the 1st paragraph too. The first paragraph should summarise the article. Compared to the other things in the 1st para - all well known and easily referenced - the little used adjective "Adelaidean" is out of place. Adpete (talk) 02:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll agree that the Adelaide Uni reference above is not appropriate for the reasons you mention, but I disagree with your conclusion. There are numerous sources that confirm the well-known use of the word "Adelaidean" - here are a few I just found: an article by Bernard Salt, a geological survey of the region, and a century-old report of an interstate cricket match. Of those, the geological survey is probably closest to a "reliable secondary source" - it clearly verifys "Adelaidean" as the adjectival form of "Adelaide". The fact that it is in the context of the Adelaide Geosyncline rather than the people of Adelaide is neither here nor there. Couple that with the Bernard Salt article comparing Adelaide to Vienna and that's pretty much a wrap. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 04:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually I think the geological one is the worst of the three, because it's a scientific term for the rocks, rather than the people or city of Adelaide. It's not uncommon to have a technical adjective when there's no corresponding common use. (e.g. Bible scholars use "Pauline" to refer to the writings of Paul the Apostle). I'll concede the other two, though one is a rather light-hearted article and the other is a century old. There's also this from a UniSA publication.[2] Even so, I think it's pretty scant evidence. I contend the adjective is rare (e.g. compared to the adjectives "Australian" or "South Australian" which can be found in abundance). For instance, Google News has 1 hit for "Adelaidean", 1200 for "South Australian". I'd suggest replacing "widely used" with "occasionally used". Adpete (talk) 07:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Hmmmm. I'm comfortable with "Adelaidean" - why put a subjective opinion on its usage? What's wrong with: The adjectival form "Adelaidean" is used in reference to the city and its residents.? While you (plural) decide, I've been bold and removed the adjective. Pdfpdf (talk) 08:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, what I removed is an adverb, isn't it? Pdfpdf (talk) 08:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
What's wrong is its usage is rare, I contend. Adelaide is also called "The 20 minute city", "a big country town", or simply "boring". I've heard all of them more frequently than "Adelaidean". To put something in the lead, especially the first paragraph, it must be common. Adpete (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you contend its usage is rare. Others contend otherwise. Yes, I too have heard "The 20 minute city" and "The city of churches" more frequently. Conversely, I have heard "a big country town", or simply "boring", less frequently. So what?
Extrapolating your reply: "WP:I just don't like it" - Yes, you have made that abundantly clear. Several times. So what?
I repeat: What's wrong with: The adjectival form "Adelaidean" is used in reference to the city and its residents.? And could your reply be a little more objective this time please? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
To put something in the lead, especially the first paragraph, it must be common. - Why? It must be true. It would be best if it had a supporting reference. But why must it be common? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Whilst it is very unscientific, may I draw your attention the the frequency with which such term appears in the above talk page? --Yeti Hunter (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Sigh. It's not just "I don't like it", but I also gave objective evidence, namely that reliable sources of its usage are few, e.g. (by one small sample point), it's about 1/1000 th as common as the term "South Australian". As for why it needs to be common to be in the lead, WP:LEAD says, "The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources," But I can see I'm not winning anyone over so I'll leave it. Adpete (talk) 04:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
There are multiple issues with the lead. It looks like it has been added to piecemeal over several years. You're probably right that it doesn't belong in the first paragraph of the lead, but until someone can be bothered with a rewrite I think that's where it will stay. On another point, I recall seeing an infobox for some type of city, perhaps US cities, which included an "adjectival" entry. I'll see if I can find that.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 00:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Found it: template:infobox settlement is the one.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 01:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Yeti Hunter seems to have a more mellow approach to the topic than me. As I'm quite comfortable with his POV, I'll withdraw to the sidelines and watch. Best wishes to you both. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
(P.S. I don't think I've ever put 12 colons at the start of a comment before. Pdfpdf (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC))
Yeah the infobox entry sounds good. But even the lead's OK if two good faith editors are happy. So I'm back on the sidelines too :) Adpete (talk) 11:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Demographics[edit]

Needs an update. Map of overseas-born residents has changed vastly since 2006, with many more South Asians and Africans moving to Adelaide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.239.135.140 (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Wait until the results of this year's census are published.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Queen Adelaide[edit]

I changed "Queen Adelaide, the German-born consort of King William IV" to "Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen, Queen of the United Kingdom as the wife of King William IV" because it is more accurate and more precise. She was not born in Germany (German Empire forming 80 years after her birth and 20 years after her death) and it does not hurt to specify what she was queen of and that she was queen due as wife of the king. Surtsicna (talk) 11:54, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Useful Adelaide resource[edit]

In case you haven't got quick access to a map of Adelaide suburb boundaries, just wanted to paste this link in. Perhaps there's a spot where this could be put for future reference? http://www.health.sa.gov.au/mentalhealth/Portals/0/metro-suburbs-sa-090928.pdf Donama (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Most expensive electricity in the world[edit]

Wayne - I'm pretty sure the front page of yesterday's Australian was suggesting that renewable energy targets are responsible for about half of the recent rise in electricity prices in SA (and the carbon tax the other half). It certainly can't be used as a reference for the assertion that privatisation and price gouging is responsible. The claims are completely unreferenced, and an Enron-style scam like you've described will require pretty good sources. Also, I don't think that we need a detailed description of the politics and scandal of ETSA over the last ten years in this article - that'd probably belong more in Energy in South Australia, which is currently a dog's breakfast and not something I'm eager to tackle just yet. --Yeti Hunter (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Flinders University Image[edit]

The current image illustrating Flinders isn't clear, most of the trees obscure the actual building and its basically just parkland. Including a picture of the humanities section of Flinders is the way to go, especially considering that division is ranked one of the best in the country and the building is depicted clearly. 124.182.244.133 (talk) 12:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

"... the humanities section ... is ranked one of the best in the country" - do you have a suitable reference for that comment, or is it just your opinion? If the latter, then the comment will have to be deleted from the photo caption; and it doesn't seem very appropriate anyway, given the striking lack of people in the photo. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 13:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Jewish community[edit]

The addition of such a detailed section on one particular ethnic or religious group seems a bit anomalous for a general article - there are many different groups (Scots, Welsh, Irish, German, Afghan, Chinese, Greek, Italian, Vietnamese, etc., to name just a few) which have emigrated to Adelaide over the course of its history and made significant contributions to its present-day culture. To include sections on each and every one of them in this article would make it overly long. Perhaps this section could be moved to a separate article on "Multicultural influences on Adelaide's development and culture". Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Photographic coverage of Religions in Adelaide[edit]

(Perhaps this is a new/separate topic, rather than a sub-topic?)

Extending on from Bahudhara's opening ... (Yes, this looks like a minefield to me - let's see if I can enter it without being blown to bits? After all, in my opinion, Bahudhara seems to have made a good start!)

Looking at pictures, we have one of the Catholic Cathedral, two of the Mosque, none of the Anglican Cathedral, and none of the Synagogue. Nor any of any of the other "Protestant" or "Non-Christian" religions.

It seems obvious to me, (though perhaps not to others) that pictures of the Catholic Cathedral and the Anglican Cathedral should be included.

Beyond that, we could chose "attractive" or "interesting" pictures, but the subjective nature of this is problematic. (e.g. Personally, I think Clayton church on the corner of Portrush Road and the Parade is attractive, but then, Scots church and Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide, both on North Terrace, are similarly attractive. And others, too. etc., ad infinitum)

What do others think? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:14, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

One reason I added the photo of the blue plaque at the Adelaide Mosque is that the otherwise very comprehensive reference cited (Colonial Cousins) contains a factual error on page 193, where it claims: "These wealthy cameleers contributed towards the building of Australia's first mosque, which was constructed in 1906 in William Street, Perth." The plaque demonstrates that the Adelaide Mosque predates the one in Perth by 17-18 years.
I agree that "Religions in Adelaide" is a complex topic that needs to be expanded in a separate article. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 02:39, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh. Well, that's difficult. However, I think the picture of the Mosque is more relevant to the Adelaide page than the picture of the plaque, and I continue to think that two Mosque-related pictures on this page is excessive. Thus, I come to the same conclusion as you: (viz: "Religions in Adelaide" is a complex topic that needs to be expanded in a separate article.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Adelaide Housing[edit]

A Dutch Colonial style home (built 1967). Adelaide's suburban residential areas are characterised by single and double-storey detached houses.

I suggest that Adelaide's suburban residential areas are characterised by single-storey detached houses; I suggest that double-storey detached houses are still very much in the small minority. What do others think? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:43, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree, I think we should get rid of that photo. Double-storey homes are a rarity in Adelaide, and the 'dutch colonial style', I think, isn't really that prominent either. A photo of the standard one-storey suburban brick home would be a much more accurate inclusion.Jordan85 (talk) 00:00, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Why? To paint Adelaide's suburbia as a dull architectural wasteland devoid of any interesting variation or remarkability in residential styles? The Dutch Colonial homes may not be prominent but they are certainly unique and thus significant to the city's otherwise overly modern residential landscape. Ashton 29 (talk) 06:06, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

The photo has reappeared. I've deleted it again. I just don't think its a good representation of Adelaide at all, as this style of home and two-storey homes are extremely uncommon in Adelaide. Jordan85 (talk) 20:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC)