Talk:Adrenochrome

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Reference to similarities with LSD and Psilocybin[edit]

I just read the article referenced (Sommer, R., and H. Osmond Am. Anthropologist 62:1051 (1960).). It has nothing to do with what it is citing; it is a three page synthesis of studies on word association. I'm removing the sentence until there is real support of it. Chris b shanks (talk) 22:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, if anyone has access to the book, they should check the reference (Hoffer, A. and Osmond, H. The Hallucinogens (Academic Press, 1967).). Considering the second reference (mentioned above) one was completely off-topic, this one needs checking. Chris b shanks (talk) 22:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I suspect hoax on the whole idea of adrenochrome being a psychotropic drug. I can't imagine the oxidation of adrenalin would have a drastic effect on it's metabolism. I even more strongly suspect any implication that the drug is used/abused for recreational purposes. Consider the fact that pure adrenaline is schedule VI according to the US FDA, meaning there is little to no abuse potential. Most of these claims of psychoactive effects seem to have stemmed from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. As a result I made it clear in the text that the Hoffer&Osmond is making the claim, and leave it to the reader to accept it or not. As talk suggests, the source in question may not even support the claim at all. -Verdatum (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

In anodic plating process[edit]

As a metalurgist, I have used substances containing Adrenochrome, (in solution) to facilitate the anodic plating process. If further interested, see Mil-P-23377 Anodic Coatings. Also see "Anodizing". David A. Davis ddavis1715@hotmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.25.194 (talkcontribs) 23:09, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Pure adrenochrome is a hallucinogen[edit]

Rinkel found that adrenochrome is not a hallucinogen. However, most likely he was using adrenochromesemicarbazide, which is inert. This substance does not get hydrolized and it does not release adrenochrome in the body. Rinkel later admitted his mistake in a largely unknown report. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cooltrance (talkcontribs) 20:24, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

From : http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/adrenochrome.txt
Adrenochrome causes chemicaly induced schizophrenia. Its semicarbazone does not...Peoplez1k 23:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Based on this link, this quote is originally from Legal Highs by (Adam Gottlieb). In that same section, it mentions that adrenochrome is not dissolvable in water, whereas a source later on in that same link, that appears to be quite a bit more reputable states that adrenochrome crystals readily dissolve in water. I'm not familiar with the Gottlieb text, but with a title like "Legal Highs", it could very well be of the same calibur as The Anarchist Cookbook, and wouldn't be surprised if it contained content extolling the effects of Smoking banana peels. I would not consider this link (that appears to be a message board archive of some sort) to be a Reliable Source. -Verdatum (talk) 00:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Adrenaline (Epinephrine) & Adrenochrome[edit]

It is possible to have adrenochrome formation from Epinephrine in solution pH slightly acid with a low concentration in sulfite & EDTA (anesthesic solution)? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.161.216.129 (talkcontribs) 12:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Impossible. Epinephrine needs an oxidizing agent to form adrenochrome; specifically, silver oxide. Fuzzform —The preceding comment was added on 01:36, 16 February 2006.

William Gibson mention[edit]

I forget the name of the short story, but William Gibson mentions the adrenaline -> adrenochrome skitz thing in a short story in the collection "Burning Chrome." He has a character tell a "wiz" addict that the drug she's on must have some kinky little tail to keep the adrenaline from turning into adrenachrome, or she'd be skitz by now. -- TCallahan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.25.62.140 (talkcontribs) 15:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"Pop Culture"[edit]

Seeing as the references in music have being removed and that an entire page of reference to Andrenochrome probably isnt warrented perhaps a small section under "Usage in Song Lyrics" / "Popular culture references" , any thoughts 62.254.167.3 15:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)PreachanStoirm (couldnt log in at time of writing)

I agree with the Adrenochrome in music idea. It's the title of a Sisters of Mercy song and I've long wondered about it, but reading Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas finally drove me to look it up here. The page could use some more references. Somgoth (talk) 05:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Another Cultural Mention[edit]

Episode 1 of the British detective show "Lewis" involves several characters who, during their college years, killed a girl to obtain adrenochrome in pursuit of the ultimate high. It sounds like they simply lifted the idea straight from Fear and Loathing, however 220.29.16.5 (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

A Clockwork Orange[edit]

In the opening scene of A Clockwork Orange, the main character talks about drinking milk laced with "drencrom" which appears to be a commercial version of adrenochrome (in universe). Not sure how to add this/if it should be added.TheNeutroniumAlchemist (talk) 04:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I came over here to suggest the same thing. Crotchety Old Man (talk) 14:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The Doors of Perception (Huxley)[edit]

The (alleged) hallucinogenic properties of adrenochrome, and its chemical similarity to mescaline and LSD are mentioned in Aldous Huxley's (1954) essay, The Doors of Perception <http://www.mescaline.com/huxley.htm>. The essay, mostly about Huxley's experience with mescaline, was very widely read by people involved in (or just interested in) the psychedelic drug culture of the 1960s, and it is almost certainly where Hunter Thompson heard about adrenochrome, and the ultimate source of all the other pop culture references. (The rock band, The Doors, also took their name from Huxley's essay, which itself derived its title from the poet William Blake.) Treharne (talk) 05:33, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Trip reports suggest very weak psychoactive effects[edit]

From http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=329&S2=-1&C1=-1&Str= :

"To sum up, effects were extremely weak, absolutely not fun nor psychedelic in anyway, and short lived."

Another thing that the trip reports suggests is how scarce the substance is, as there is only three of them. That may be another cause of the myths surrounding this drug. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.95.155.8 (talk) 11:37, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

"mysticism"[edit]

what this section has to do with mysticism or religion is totally unclear, despite dropping those words multiple times 23:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.46.33 (talk)