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Photo vetting for Curiosity[edit]

Over the next 24+ months as Curiosity wakes up, and starts exploring Gale Crater we are bound to see many photos of Aeolis Mons, I would like the community to either use an established vetting process, or establish one through those that are interested in this formation. 27th August 2012 resulted in a NASA press release with at least 4 high quality photos (found here with commentary http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/postcards-from-mars-show-rovers-key-science-targets-20120828-24y4k.html). Comments?--Amckern (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Should "Mount Sharp" be named "Sharp Mons"?[edit]

Seems NASA officially named the "mound" in the center of Gale Crater "Mount Sharp"< ref name="Space-20120329">Staff (29 March 2012). "NASA's New Mars Rover Will Explore Towering 'Mount Sharp'". Space.com. Retrieved 30 March 2012. </ref> - should this have been named "Sharp Mons" instead - to be more consistent with the naming of other mountains on the planet Mars? - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

That designation has never been official. 69.7.77.20 (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment - I agree - current (a/o 07/18/2012) official naming of the Mars mountain is probably best described HERE if interested - Thanks again - and Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 15:29, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

NASA can call it whatever it wishes, but it is up to the IAU to make any name official. Besides that, I imagine that calling it Sharp Mons from the outset would leave a lot of the (scientifically challenged/uninterested) public scratching their heads.--172.190.16.111 (talk) 20:56, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment - I totally agree - nonetheless, thought there might be some convention (IAU or equiv?) for naming Martian mountains - esp since no other ("major"?) mountain on Mars seems to include "Mount" in its name - thanks again in any regards - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Height[edit]

Shouldn't the height above datum be given instead of the height above the crater floor? Not that it wouldn't be nice to know both, however.--172.190.16.111 (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I'd use the words altitude from the datum and height from the crater floor. —Tamfang (talk) 21:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Correct, official naming of the central Gale mound is Aeolis Mons[edit]

The IAU Working Group for Planetary System Nomenclature has decided not to follow previous NASA annoncement. The central Gale mound shall be officially named Aeolis Mons, and Robert Sharp is the name given to a westward neighbour round feature, seemingly a crater. However, the "Mt. Sharp" will probably remain in use for a while in the community -- usage will decide. --Éric Lewin (t), Grenoble (France) 09:13, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the update re the new official names by USGS & IAU- seems "Robert Sharp" is now the official name of a crater (100 mi in diameter?) about 160 mi west of Gale Crater (also 100 mi in diameter?) - in any case - thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:55, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Update: Added a "Redirect" Page - "Aeolis Mons" now redirects to "Mount Sharp (Mars)" - at least for now - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 15:19, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Updates: Created new related (relevant?) articles/pages -> "Robert Sharp (crater)" and "Aeolis Palus" - all welcome to contribute of course - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 21:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for doing this good job ---Éric Lewin (t), Grenoble (France) 17:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you - your comment is appreciated - the edit effort was fun - also - Thanks again for your update post about the official naming - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 19:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved page from Mount Sharp (Mars) to Aeolis Mons using Move Page Form, per Wikipedia:Article titles. Both names are new, one name is official. Mount Sharp (Mars) is a redirect. JimsMaher (talk) 21:35, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Actually, I raised a point here that Gale Crater looks like it is at the position of "Pambotis Lacus" on the old canal maps, which should be right between Aeolis and Aethopis. ;) I assume there must be some formal block definition of Aeolis by now that isn't defined in such a capricious way, though. It'd be interesting if someone could explain what it is for the article. Wnt (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
The IAU lists Jürgen Blunck Mars and its Satellites, A Detailed Commentary on the Nomenclature, 2nd edition as a reference. The BAA suggests these. Fotaun (talk) 13:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, that first link you gave above links to two maps that seem relevant (which is all I see of relevance, though I could be missing something). One of these is a map of the quad which shows all the (other) Aeolis features (Aeolis Mensae, Aeolis Planum, Aeolis Dorsa) to the right of Gale Crater, and Terra Cimmeria to the south. The other is a map [1] which shows Gale Crater just to the south of the boundary of Terra Cimmeria... (still looking at your second link) Wnt (talk) 14:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Pure OR for discussion only - After doing some alignment (not sure if it's worth uploading because it's not very good and there are copyright issues with the originals) it looks to me like Gale Crater comes out at the end of the Cyclops canal in "Sinus Gomer" or "Gomer Sinus" on [2], a feature which also appears at [3] Based on the features at right is a temptation with the first map to move the equator, which would put Gale Crater closer to Pambotis L. which is marked on it, but Laestrygonum aligns best with the equator in the right place, so best not. (The 1889 Schiaparelli map didn't have a sinus there, but didn't define Pambotis L. either; the canal Eunostos which defines its position, still shown on the 1953 map, seems vanished without trace on the satellite map I'm comparing with) The one thing I'm not getting is Gale Crater in Aeolis. ;) Wnt (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Interesting! Do any of these basins align with old albedo marks? Fotaun (talk) 14:35, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid that's off topic here (try the Science Refdesk for questions like this) - but I assume it's been a looong time since such were visible. Wnt (talk) 14:53, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, discussing these old albedo maps is a pretty valid area of discussion given the article. Anyway, came across this interview about the naming. Fotaun (talk) 15:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Before Anyone Gets Worked Up Over the Name[edit]

Best thing to do is just explain the origins and uses of both names and let history decide what the name of the mountain will ultimately be. The rover wasn't sent to Mars for this subjective stuff anyway.Radical Mallard (talk) 23:05, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Mount Sharp now redirects to Aeolis Mons.[edit]

FYI - "Mount Sharp" (as well as "Mount Sharp (Mars)" and "Mount Sharp (planet Mars)") now redirects to "Aeolis Mons" - and not to "Mount Sharp (Antarctica)" as before - also, the related corresponding "Talk:Mount Sharp" redirects to "Talk:Aeolis Mons" - for more details of the move/redirect(s), see "Talk:Mount Sharp (Antarctica)#Proposed move" - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)