Talk:Afonso de Albuquerque
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Memory of benign rule
I wonder if this line is accurate. I am from that region and did not know about him till I read this here "The Indians long remembered his benign rule, and used to visit his tomb to pray him to deliver them from the oppression of his successors." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs).
Why this text in the article ? It could pertain here at the talk page. --DLL 18:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
His "benign rule"
The Indians long remembered his benign rule, and used to visit his tomb to pray him to deliver them from the oppression of his successors. Can anyone expand, confirm, or deny this? Especially the perception of Al as "benign ruler"? --Ringtail Jack 05:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Good Article nomination has failed
- Some statements definitely need referencing - the one about benign rule already mentioned, and the claim he wanted to steal corpses and hold them to ransom. Also, the 1911 origin of the article is clear - it really needs a thorough edit to make it less archaic. Worldtraveller 14:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
"Alfonso de Albuquerque" needs a redirect here
Just passing through, thought there somehow wasn't an article on him. No idea how to do this nor any inclination to take the time, but I know there are a lot of dedicated folks who know how to do a redirect without researching it. Lots of texts translate "Afonso" to "Alfonso", including the Hakluyt Society's "Three Voyages of Vasco da Gama". 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I was actually thinking the same. The correct name in portuguese is Afonso and not Alfoso --Jfarinhote (talk) 11:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC) The redirect exists, click on Alfonso de Albuquerque and you will see. dougweller (talk) 12:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Conquest of Malacca
Removed the following sentence after checking the stated reference - and researching other- for a report of thisslaughter of all the Muslim population after the conquest of Malacca. As I didn't find any, neither in this or in other sources - removed it hopping someone can shed light on this issue. I did find reports about a Muslim slaugther after Goa conquest and hope to include and reference it soon in the article.
"He ordered the slaughter of all the Muslim population in an effort to reduce religious divergence hoping that it would force Hindus and Muslims to convert to Christianity.(Benton, Lauren. (2001) Law and Colonial Cultures "Cambridge University Press". 300 pages. ISBN 0-521-00926-X.) --Uxbona (talk) 23:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Bras de Albuquerque
Any credible references?
Any credible references to the claim that Afonso de Albuquerque brought Alphonso mango on his journey to India? According to Wikipedia, mango "is a fruit which is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent." I wonder where a Portuguese obtained the cultivar of Afonso and brought it to India. Ctchou (talk) 01:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- There are many varities of mango. I didn't insert this comment, but I have seen references to particular strands of mango being brought to India by the Portuguese, e.g. Ramunni Nair (1902) "The Portuguese in Malabar", Calcutta Review, Vol. 115, [p.219] refers to Cabral bringing Paranki mango from Brazil to Malabar. On the other hand these are old sources, and the natural history of the mango at the time might have relied more on hearsay than science (e.g. quite possible that that strand actually travelled in the opposite direction, from India to Brazil, but the story got mixed up somewhere along the line). Walrasiad (talk) 07:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- And certainly I wouldn't put it beyond possible marketing ploy - i.e. some local cultivator of that mango strand fabricating the story to give his mangos an exotic pedigree. ;) Walrasiad (talk) 07:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)