Talk:African-American representation in Hollywood

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I think you would benefit from putting the actresses who were in the help and the whole academy awards that just passed under the neglect academy awards section. maybe you could have a sub section titled the help. You should also remove Zach's comment and the Lynch dudes comment from your page. pdebarro


Topics[edit]

You've got some great topic ideas - now its time to narrow them down and focus. They are a little vague, and you will need to drill down your topic ideas. This is best accomplished through research, since you've got to back up all your information on Wikipedia. Our next class will be a visit with the subject librarian for help but check out scholar.google.com in the meantime. Debaser42 (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Some comments on your sandbox article[edit]

Hi Jcpasiec, great work on your sandbox article! I love the tone of your writing, its well suited for an encyclopedia article. One small thing though; Wikipedia relies on external sources for citations, and hence it would be improper to cite a reference to another page on Wikipedia. Reliable external sources are needed, and Google is a great tool to search for those ;) . Leave me a message on my talk page if you need any assistance! Thanks, Lynch714:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

You might want to link words like Gone With the Wind, and Academy awards in your article. You can do this by enclosing the word you want to link in double square brackets [[ ]] . Lynch7 14:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Citations[edit]

I don't see anything under your references - where are your citations? Debaser42 (talk) 15:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Under "Template:Reflist" You have misspelled the word stereotypes here: "Blackface: The History of Racist Blackface Steriotypes". Retrieved 29 March 2012.

Done. EricEnfermero Howdy! 17:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Peer Review[edit]

Hi! I read through your article, and I think what you have is a great start and a great idea for an article. I'm sure there are many people looking for information about African Americans in Hollywood. I like the section of "Old Hollywood" and I think you can find a lot more information about African Americans in the past. When you say what roles are generally offered, where did you find that information? I agree with you, but you might want to find a site that says the same. Also, I believe that "The Help" should be italicized or put in quotes, but I'm not sure. Other than that, your article looks good. I would include a subsection for "Hollywood Now" or something along those lines to counter what you said about how African Americans were represented in Hollywood in the past. I also fixed a few small grammatical/spelling errors. Hope some of this is helpful, see you in class! Jcidado (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Your article is definitely interesting, although I think you may end up running into trouble with the Wiki powers that be if you do not add any more citations. That being said, you may want to look into African American representation in DW Griffith's Birth of a Nation, the classic Clasablanca, Oscar Michaeux's films, and the race films of early American cinema. It would also be good to mention the iconic night in Oscar history when Halley Berry and Denzel Washington both won Oscars. I look forward to the changes you make and reading your article again (Channinged5 (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC))

Suggestion for sources[edit]

Here are some articles I found that you might find beneficial in adding to your article:

Race and the Safe Hollywood Bet

Black Characters in Search of Reality

Caricature Acting

Hollywood's Whiteout I hope those help you a little bit. Please let me know if you want me to edit your article further or look for more! (Channinged5 (talk) 12:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC))

Race-blind Roles[edit]

"At least three men have built their careers in roles where race was unimportant to the story: Denzel Washington’s detective in The Pelican Brief, Will Smith's alien fighter in Independence Day, and Samuel L Jackson's Jedi in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. "

I find this a bit contentious. Samuel Jackson didn't have a career before Phantom Menace? Will Smith's character's race in Fresh Prince wasn't part of the story? Denzel didn't get an Oscar nomination for his role as a black Union soldier in Glory? While they have all had roles where their race wasn't relevant to the story, I don't think you can say that they've built their careers on them, nor can you justify this conclusion by citing movies from after they were established and bankable Hollywood stars. Jackson in particular rebooted his career with Jules in Pulp Fiction, who to my eye is unmistakably African-American. NelC (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed the section entirely. It gives a single source far too much prominence in this article, and I find it odd the author of that source singles out those three actors in particular. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite