Talk:Ahmedabad

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Former featured article Ahmedabad is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Good article Ahmedabad has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Main Page trophy This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on February 23, 2007.


GA check[edit]

I am working my way through the Good articles listed at Places; having a quick look to see if they still meet the Good article criteria. I have reached this article. After I've had a quick look, I'll leave a note here. In general, initially I look to see if there are obvious issues: maintenance tags, unsourced sections, excessive media, etc, and if so, if this can be resolved quickly by myself. If it looks like there may be significant and/or several minor issues, I'll open a GAR to see the extent of the problems. If it looks like there are sufficient concerns to put the GA listing in jeopardy, and that significant work is needed to resolve the concerns, I will notify the main contributors to the article, and put the GAR on hold. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Article has been tagged with sourcing concerns since Dec 2013, the lead does not adequately summarise the article, it is cluttered with inappropriate media and images. Opening GAR. SilkTork ✔Tea time 20:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Ahmedabad/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Article has been tagged with sourcing concerns since Dec 2013. Starting GAR. SilkTork ✔Tea time 20:21, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Tick box[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Comments on GA criteria[edit]

Pass
  • There is a reference section. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Prose is clear and readable. I haven't checked for copyvio - there are a wide range of sources, and the information is mainly factual. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Article is stable. There are some minor reverts of IP edits; nothing significant, and not enough to warrant protection. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Focus. There are no details which are overly long or overly detailed, and the article as a whole is not overly large. However, as part of ongoing development, some tightening and trimming could take place to reduce wordage or unessential facts. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Main areas of interest are covered. SilkTork ✔Tea time 11:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Images now OK. SilkTork ✔Tea time 16:41, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Citing has been sorted out. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:29, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Possibly biased language has been dealt with. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:29, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Query
  • There are too many images for the article, and some are low quality, File:Chandola lake.jpg, File:View of Sabarmati Riverfront, Ahmedabad.jpg. There are also duplicate images of the same locations. I have not checked the copyright status of the images, as that is better done when the current images are reduced. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:42, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • A number of the comments interspersed throughout the article are unsourced and appear to be individual observation and opinion. This is likely due to well meaning additions by inexperienced readers, and is evidence that the article is not maintained. SilkTork ✔Tea time 13:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Some of the language used, again likely due to unsourced insertions by casual readers rather than experienced editors, is not neutral, such as "The old city has few bakeries known for making very good Naan". SilkTork ✔Tea time 13:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Fail

General comments[edit]

On hold[edit]

There is a decent article at heart here, but it needs tidying up. Looking through the "Article milestones" on the talkpage, the article as of August 2006, when it was promoted as a Featured Article, is a decent core; while it doesn't quite meet GA standards today, it does indicate that the article is essentially OK if tidied up. The reviews over the years indicate that the article has been prone to editors adding text, media and images without much thought to our editing guidelines and policies, and is indicative of casual editing by inexperienced editors on a popular article. While the edits have not been vandalistic (intentionally bad), the effect has been the same as if it were, as the article has suffered, and become unreliable and off-putting. Looking more closely at the edit history, I see TheRedPenOfDoom has done much to keep the page under control, though various unhelpful edits, such as this escape attention as they are sourced and not vandalistic. Given that the article needs a fair amount of TLC to bring it back up to scratch, I am putting the GAR onhold for the standard initial seven days (though of course will extend that as needed), and putting the article on semi-protection for the duration of the GAR and a bit longer, to give some stability. As standard, will let main contributors know what is happening. SilkTork ✔Tea time 14:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

No progress has been made. WikiProjects have been contacted. SilkTork ✔Tea time 07:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I have added sources wherever necessary.--Skr15081997 (talk) 06:56, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Well done for that. I'm going to have a closer look at the lead later to see what can be done there. At the moment I feel the article's GA listing is secure. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I still have some concerns about the lead, which needs further development, and the article could do with some further tightening and cleaning. However, the concerns are not enough to justify a delisting, so I'm closing this GAR as a keep. SilkTork ✔Tea time 21:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protection[edit]

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This article has been semi-protected. Semi-protection prevents edits from unregistered users (IP addresses), as well as edits from any account that is not autoconfirmed (is at least four days old and has at least ten edits to Wikipedia) or confirmed. Such users can request edits to this article by proposing them on this talk page, using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template if necessary to gain attention. New users may also request the confirmed user right by visiting Requests for permissions. SilkTork ✔Tea time 16:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2014[edit]

Please insert this information into the article regarding Ahmedabad's pioneering Heat Action Plan:

Ahmedabad is the first city in India and South Asia to comprehensively address the health threats of extreme heat. The Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan is attempting to do so through an early warning system and heat preparedness plan. It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to prevent and respond to heat-related illnesses, and coordinating an interagency emergency response effort when heat waves hit.

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Hickman0 (talk) 13:56, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2014[edit]

Hi,

I have a few suggestions for minor changes related to grammar, sentence formation and citations on this page. Since I have a new account, and this is a semi-protected article, I am unable to make any edits.

Follows a list of my suggestions. Please feel free to either add them yourself or give me feedback about them so that I can update them once my account is confirmed.

1. SUMMARY BOX (ON THE RIGHT EDGE) i)There seems to be some confusion in the literacy rates of Ahmedabad, the city vs Ahmedabad, the district. Since this is a page devoted to Ahmedabad as a city, and not a district, the summary box on the right panel needs to be updated with the right info for the city's demographics. CORRECTION- Literacy rate: 89.62% (and not 86.65% as mentioned in the box. The article has the correct number elsewhere so it makes sense to sync up the two) Source: http://www.census2011.co.in/census/city/314-ahmedabad.html

Yes check.svg Done And corrected the later information to again match the source. Older and ... well older (talk) 13:50, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

2. GRAMMAR & SENTENCE FORMATION i) (Introduction Section, Para 1) ORIGINAL - It is the administrative headquarters of Ahmedabad district and is the judicial capital of Gujarat as the Gujarat High Court is located here. CORRECTION - It is the administrative headquarters of the Ahmedabad district as well as the judicial capital of the state of Gujarat. The Gujarat State High Court is located here.

Yes check.svg Done Older and ... well older (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii) (Geography Section, under the image "Ahmedabad_Panorama_1.jpg") ORIGINAL - Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives, the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC) in partnership with an international coalition of health and academic groups and with support from the Climate & Development Knowledge Network, has developed the Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan CORRECTION - Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives, the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC) in partnership with an international coalition of health and academic groups and with support from the Climate & Development Knowledge Network developed the Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan

iii) (Geography Section, under the image "Ahmedabad_Panorama_1.jpg") ORIGINAL - "It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to prevent and respond to heat-related illnesses..." CORRECTION - It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to not only respond to but also help prevent heat-related illnesses

Yes check.svg Done ii and iii. Note: the resulting sentence from iii is not consistent in tense. Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

3. MEDIA SECTION i)ADDITION - Ahmedabad is also the city of license for Radio Mirchi Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Mirchi

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please provide a reliable source, WP is not reliable. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

4. CULTURE SECTION i)(1st para, third line from the bottom) "Christmas" needs a link to its Wikipedia article.

{Yes check.svg Done Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii)(2nd Paragraph, 3rd line from the top) ORIGINAL - "...sweet dishes include laddoo, mango, and vedhmi." CORRECTION - ...sweet dishes include laddoo, shrikhand, aam-ras, vedhmi and different halwas & barfis.

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

5. INTRODUCTION SECTION i)Last line - As of 2014 Ahmedabad's estimated gross domestic product was $64 billion. This line is already mentioned in the ECONOMY SECTION. Either remove it from the INTRODUCTION SECTION or if it needs to be kept there, please add a citation to it.

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The lead should summarize the article and should only have citations for controversial claims. The article is the source for the lead. Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

6. GEOGRAPHY SECTION i)(4th line from bottom up) "It houses the main railway station..." This railway station is also known as Kalupur Railway Station Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedabad_railway_station

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. WP is not a reliable source. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii) (1st line under the image) "Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives..." The above needs citation. Sources: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Heat-wave-in-city-Over-50-people-dead-already/articleshow/5982648.cms http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/weather-researchers-fear--may-2010-heat-wave--may-return-to-city/944740/

Yes check.svg Done I used the second source. The first was during the heat wave and didn't support the claim of "hundreds". Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Jaymodi12688 (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC) Jaymodi12688

Yellow check.svg Partly done: Thanks for improving the article. See above for details about the individual requests. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)