Talk:Akashi Kaikyō Bridge
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Spell out kilometers per hour!?!? If you think there might be some confusion, just make it a link. —wwoods 07:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The article states just that the toll is high. Can someone find out the actual toll amount? I'm just curious... Chris Dolan 19:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Now the toll is stated in the infobox as "2,300 Yen or US$20". I've never crossed the bridge so I wouldn't know for sure but I suspect it highly unlikely that the toll booths would accept US dollars. The USD figure should either be noted as a conversion or just deleted (unless they do actually accept USD afterall). J
ЇѦρ 00:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
length of bridge
this article says the total bridge length and that its the longest suspension bridge in the world. my point is that when I look at the "great belt fixed link" article, it says the great belt is the second longest in the world but it says, if you look at the numbers, that the great belt is the longest and the akashi-kaikyo is the second longest--- please check facts! im doing a report on the Great Belt Fixed Link and I need the information! Unlucky13blk 00:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC) unlucky13blk
- The size and therefore the ranking of suspension bridges are based on the length of the main span (the distance between the 2 towers), not the total length. The Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge has a main span of 1991 meters, while the Great Belt Fixed Link has a main span of 1,624 meters. Hope that helps. VerruckteDan 14:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
t has a clock tower bigger than big ben on it
A map is needed for this article to locate it geographically. Bobo12345 05:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Citation for underutilization
Before we revert each other any further lets talk this out a bit. First to answer your question, no I don't have a citation that says its regularly used and meets its forecasts. Nor do I need such a citation, as I am not claiming such a thing or changing the article to make such a claim. As the article stands, it makes a statement about the bridge being unpopular with drivers due to the cost of the toll. This statement is an opinion or even mere speculation unless it is quantified by a specific citation. VerruckteDan 04:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- And I agree with you to a point. Also, I have seen your edits and I respect your contribution to Wikipedia and you do a great job. You are also part of the Wikipedia Bridge project and I am not. Therefore if you revert me again, I will let it stand and leave this article alone. I speak to this from experience and also from having Japanese friends. I know Wikipedia doesn't like original research and thats fine. But the other extreme end of it where every statement of an article has to be backed up by some newsclip or link of someone's website is also not right. Forexample look at the first paragraph of this article:
- The Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge (明石海峡大橋, Akashi Kaikyō Ō-hashi?), also known as Pearl Bridge, is a suspension bridge in Japan that crosses the Akashi Strait; it links Maiko in Kobe and Iwaya on Awaji Island as part of the Honshū-Shikoku Highway. It is the longest suspension bridge in the world to date, as measured by the length of its center span 1,991 metres (6,532 ft), substantially longer than the second longest suspension bridge, the Danish Great Belt Bridge. Total length is 3,911 metres (12,831 ft). It was planned to be one of three Honshū-Shikoku connecting bridges, annexing two borders of the Inland Sea.
- I could place a Citation Needed at the end of every single sentence. For Example, how do we know it crosses the Akashi Straight? There is no citation there. How do I believe its also referred to as Pearl Bridge? No citation. How do we know its the longest bridge, there is no link there to a website claiming this. How do we know the span is 1,991 meters? There is no link.
- You see my point, it becomes redundant and rather stupid if there was a citation everywhere. The reason there is no citation is because all those claims are known facts. The bridge being underutilized is also a fact. Now it being due to high tolls or else, I can give you that. Logic says if there were no tolls and it was Free everyone would use it. But the bridge is not meeting its capacity right now as of today. Thats all.--Bangabalunga 05:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- You seem to be confused by straight measurable 'facts' that are easily verified by numerous sources (which would be redundant) and questions of degree and opinion. I live in Japan, and 2300 yen to me is cheap. The fact is that making statements like 'so expensive' and 'ironically' is emotive language that has no place here. On top of which, when you consider that this is a bridge that took 30 years to build all told, is in a major earthquake zone, has to survive 300km typhoons, is in the worlds busiest shipping lane, had to have it foundations sunk in 180 metres of sea water, is the world's longest suspension bridge, has towers that are 3/4 the height of the Eiffel Tower, survived the 7.2 Richter scale earthquake that destroyed much of Kobe, moving the towers 1 metres further apart during construction then you might appreciate that this bridge is not exactly 'so expensive'. Macgruder 14:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
One main purpose of the "Citation Needed" template is to handle situations when one editor knows something is a fact, and another questions it. The fact that someone adds the citation is usually justification enough for it to remain. I can easily verify where the bridge is located. I can't easily verify how much it is being used. So it seems pointless to tag the fact that it crosses the Akashi Straight, and I doubt anyone would seriously tag that fact. So leave the tag, or find a citation. This really shouldn't be a big deal. The tag is there so we don't repeatedly have to have conversations like this one on talk pages. -- ☑ SamuelWantman 06:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
If something is well know then it will have appeared in a newspaper or magazine article, possibly triggered by a letter to the editor. An alternative source is a formal request for a subsidy. Andrew Swallow 02:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
"Akashi" is the name of the strait between Honshu and Awaji. "Kaikyo" simply means "strait". Thus, "Akashi Kaikyo" is "Akashi Strait". The name is definitely not connecting endpoints of Akashi and Kaikyo.
The English convention, the bridge name is multi-word but refers to a single geographical feature, then there is no hyphen, for example, "Golden Gate Bridge", "Tacoma Narrows Bridge", "Chesapeake Bay Bridge". If the bridge name is the name of its two endpoints, then there is a hyphen, for example: Astoria-Megler Bridge, Rosario-Victoria Bridge. For more example, see List of bridges by length. 184.108.40.206 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 07:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)