Talk:Alan Carter (philosopher)

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Work needed on this article[edit]

Can someone add a section to the article on Carter's state-primacy theory?

Can someone add a section to the article on the environmentally hazardous dynamic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.43.77.67 (talk) 11:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

  • There is something on the environmentally hazardous dynamic here

Conflict of interest[edit]

If in doubt, check the history of the page Allan Carter.

Someone posted a page entitled Allan Carter. This is the wrong name. I have not altered the content, merely changed the name of the page to one that is not incorrect.

  • On November 4 2007 Madman moved the Allan Carter page here, so all the history is now on this page. The history of the earlier Allan Carter page (including the history of its creation) is at the very end of the history of the Alan Carter page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.43.77.67 (talk) 12:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I am guessing Alan B. Carter is User:Carterab and indeed User:Carterab1952 --Rumping 00:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

  • It does look very suspicious. And what's with all the redirects? Grutness...wha? 01:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I am not sure, but he seemed to have created roughly the same article several times. I redirected them all to one title, and then he chose another. --Rumping 02:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
    • A person is using Wikipedia for the purpose of promoting Alan Carter by creating many pages about him and modifying several articles to refer to him and his works. I've tracked some of these activities.-- Mumia-w-18 13:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I doubt Alan Carter is notable. We should put all of these articles up for deletion. Postmodern Beatnik 23:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Which "of these articles" remain extant, do you know? Skomorokh incite 13:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
See Postmodern Beatnik's contribs for a list of the articles Postmodern Beatnik has changed without any consultation. Ditto for Mumia-w-18. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.96.8.121 (talk) 15:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Please familiarize youself with Wikipedia policy before making such statements. I don't need to consult anyone: WP:BOLD. Postmodern Beatnik 03:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion[edit]

I've placed a tag on the article, just to test the water. I expect that it will be removed. I don't see any abuse of Conflict of interest policy here, as there would be if the page linked to a commercial site, although it is not recommended that people edit their own biographies. If someone thinks there is a problem, the page might be listed at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Usually such a page would be moved to the user's own page rather than deleted, but it would be better not to do this unless one of the editors identifies himself as Alan Carter. Banno 19:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed the prod tag - some anonymous editor(s) who may or may not be Alan Carter is/are making good faith, sourced attempts at establishing notability, which, after all is our main concern here, not WP:COI. I suggest we leave them to it for a few days, and if notability is still contested thereafter, list the article for deletion. Skomorokh incite 19:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Indeed, I think I would vote to keep, even as is. Carter has some notability outside of his own academy. Banno 20:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
My concern is that it seems to fail the basic criteria of WP:BIO, specifically point 3. Additionally, Carter does not seem to meet the criteria for academics (under the heading "creative professionals"). I admit, I'm on the cusp myself; and I am generally an inclusionist. However, it seems more notable people than Carter have failed the test before. Still, if everyone disagrees with me then I am happy to let the article stand. Postmodern Beatnik 03:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the notability tag on the page. I hope that was okay. I figured that being a full professor and a Chair who has written 3 books, and published 50-ish articles, mostly in journals with very high standards, he is notable. Stick the tag back in if I have acted to soon. Anarchia (talk) 04:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Tags, February 16th 2008[edit]

No one appears to have volunteered to write sections on the tags in question; a simple bio page of a philosopher need not include intimate details of all their works and theories, so I have removed the tags. This would be a different matter if someone is actually willing to actually write the sections and support the position that it is of enough importance to be included in the article. -=Sean=- (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)