Talk:Alan Turing

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Known For section to short[edit]

The 'known for' section should definitely give mention of his contribution to computational biology. TheGrandmother (talk) 09:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2015[edit]

Under the section, "Portrayal in adaptations," please add information about an opera in development about Alan Turing's life. I suggest adding the following text:

In 2012, in honor of the Turing Centennial, American Lyric Theater commissioned an operatic exploration of the life and death of Alan Turing from composer Justine F. Chen and librettist David Simpatico.[1] Titled The Life and Death(s) of Alan Turing, the opera is a historical fantasia on the life of the brilliant scientist. The opera will receive a concert performance in October 2015 in NYC. In November 2014, the opera and several other artistic works inspired by Turing's life were featured on Studio 360. [2]

Yes check.svg Done HiDrNick! 19:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2015[edit]

Under the section "Hut 8 and Naval Enigma" there is a quote, but it is not marked as a quote in any way and is therefore difficult to read due to the sudden context change. This should be modified so that it is clear what text is quoted.

Yes check.svg Done Thank you. Mlpearc (open channel) 08:55, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2015[edit]

Middle Name is actually Matheson Not Mathison Jjpaula (talk) 20:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Another request (unrelated; I'm another editor): please internally link the first mention of "Churchill" to Winston Churchill. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 20:15, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. Full name at first instance and now linked. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Martinevans123. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 22:24, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: @Jjpaula: please provide reliable sources that support the changes you want to be made (see also, [1]). @82.136.210.153: Winston Churchill is already linked in Delilah sub-section of article. We usually do not link a term more than once in an article. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 21:03, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Anupmehra, per WP:LINK and WP:COMMONSENSE we link the term's first occurrence in the article's text. The first occurrence is before the Delilah section. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 21:11, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
In a long article there's often a reasonable case for linking more than once. I've now added full name and linked at first instance. The second is still there also. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:30, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Belief in the afterlife removed?[edit]

I recall one of his religious views being of which after his best friend's death he became an atheist but simultaneously kept the belief that consciousness can survive after death - this snippet was also cited and linked to a credible source. So why was it removed?

Here's an old screencapture of the paragraph I'm pertaining to:


He became an atheist and adopted the conviction that all phenomena, including the workings of the human brain, must be materialistic,[21] but he still believed in the survival of the spirit after death.[22][/i]


Citation: The Inspiration of Life and Death, 1928–1932 Alan Turing Scrapbook

http://web.archive.org/web/20130424185723/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#cite_note-22


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pentrazemine (talkcontribs) 04:40, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

suggested edit - add the definition ("Completely Automated Program For Telling Computers and Humans Apart") when you mention "CAPTCHA"[edit]

Some people do not know what this acronym stands for so you should apell it out, parenthetically, here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.77.111.16 (talk) 23:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2015[edit]

There is a citation needed behind The Faculty of Informatics and Information Technologies Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, Slovakia has a lecture room named "Turing Auditorium" line. Here below is a link from official university webpage confirming the name. http://is.stuba.sk/mistnosti/?zobrazit_mistnost=2472;areal=2;budova=172;klic=2472;mistnostpodrobne=1;lang=en 87.197.160.239 (talk) 12:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Crystal Clear action edit add.png Added Thank you. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:18, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

"round-the-house" chess[edit]

"Turing ... with his friend David Champernowne ... invented "round-the-house" chess: after you move, run around the house, if you get back before your opponent's move you are entitled to a new move."

http://www.math.cornell.edu/~numb3rs/spulido/Numb3rs_season5/Numb3rs_517.html ~~ Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 04:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
https://ilk.uvt.nl/icga/journal/contents/content23-4.htm#DAVID%20CHAMPERNOWNE

"He was also a long-distance runner, and while working at Bletchley Park occasionally ran the 64Km to London when he was needed for high-level meetings."

http://www.fcet.staffs.ac.uk/jdw1/sucfm/manchester.htm ~~ Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 05:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2015[edit]

106.39.113.200 (talk) 09:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 10:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

British vs English[edit]

Seems this was discussed a while ago: [2]? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

And that was not even the first time. His ancestors were Scottish and Irish. Why is this a recurring issue? DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 14:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
If you check biographies of British people, wiki best practice is to describe the country from where they come, many famous Scottish, Welsh and Irish luminaries have English ancestors but if you were to try and label them 'British' or 'English' there would be an uproar. Nearly all BLP's of non-English people are listed by their country not their nationality, I am merely applying best practice in avoiding 'uniformity' (ie everyone must be British) In closing, it is wrong that on Wikipedia only the English are 'British', subsequently we need parity or the entire thing becomes a mockery as it seems that if you are not English you are either 'Scottish', 'Welsh', or 'Irish' but if you are English then you must be 'British' and that is just hypocrisy of the the worst order and biased as it seems that English luminaries have many fathers while the non English have only one. Twobellst@lk 16:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Is this "best practice" written down as a policy somewhere? How large was your sample? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:29, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
@Martinevans123: see this [[3]] policy article please. Twobellst@lk 10:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, that's the policy. Which part of it specifically applies here and supports your argument? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:30, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, @Twobells: I don't understand the problem; you may have to spell it out for me. Turing's ancestors were Scottish and Irish, yet you want him labelled "English". And then above, you assert that "if you are not English you are either 'Scottish', 'Welsh', or 'Irish' but if you are English then you must be 'British'. I'm very confused. Turing, once again, was Scottish and Irish. If I understand your argument (and apparently I don't), you should be agreeing with the "British" label rather than opposed to it. What am I missing? DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 20:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
@DoctorJoeE:Since when has Wikipedia started to describe a BLP by their 'ancestors' nationality? If that was the case most 'American' or other Commonwealth luminaries would all be 'British'. No, there is nothing confusing about my response whatsoever, if I didn't follow Wiki's policy on AGF I'd have assumed you were being ingenuous. Essentially, Wiki BLP's are determined by the country they were born in, which in Turing's case is England, not their nationality. Wikipedia demands that editors do not force uniformity on BLP's, subsequently, I believe that Turning's BLP should follow all the other BLP's of people from the UK otherwise it could be suggested that editors were being hypocritical in that, everyone not English is Welsh, Scottish or Irish, yet everyone who is English are just 'British', being the 'only' British people on Wikipedia. In closing, even the revered BBC describes Turing as English. [1] so who are we to suggest otherwise? Twobellst@lk 10:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
(I have to admit that I read that must as an ironic one. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC) )
Yes, of course it was ironic. Which still argues for describing him as "British", since he was Scottish/Irish, not English. Am I missing something? DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 22:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Even Scottish people can be British when they're winning, can't they? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
While I find your response funny, no, you will find most non-English BLP's described by their constituent country of origin, NOT their nationality and I don't see why it is that only the English should be described as 'British' when if we were to take an historical approach the Scots and Welsh would be 'British' not the English who for the most part were Anglo-Saxon not from those hallowed isles. Twobellst@lk 10:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Again, what is your sample? Have you actually checked all non-English BLPs? I really don't think we trace nationality back to the Anglo-Saxons. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)