Talk:Alfonso V of Aragon

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Alfons or Alfonso?[edit]

Is he to be called Alfons or Alfonso? He switches from one to another and back during this article. I'd prefer "Alfonso", but that would involve changing the title of the article. qp10qp 12:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

And now I've noticed that the article for Alfons's grandson, a later king of Naples, is titled "Alphonso II", who is nonetheless called "Alfonso" throughout the article. So even if "Alfons", in the case of the present article, is justifiable, it is surely inconsistent for his grandson then to be called "Alphonso" in an article title. qp10qp 14:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I support Alfonso throughout both articles and for both titles. It is the most common and recognisable English spelling of the name. Srnec 22:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Birthday?[edit]

Alfonso's birthday is December 15th 1393 according to "Speculum Astrologiae", vol. i, chart number 705, Lugduni 1583, written by the astrologer Junctinus (Giuntini). This is a very credible source, since astrology was in high regard in the renaissance.

Alfonso, Pedro and... John ?![edit]

I think there should be at least a minimum of consistency; if the first two brothers' names are written in Spanish - although, being "dynastic" names they really should be "translated", i.e. written in English - then the third brother's name should also be written in Spanish: Juan.

No?

I think so.

References[edit]

For such an important topic, the complete lack of references (except for Ethiopia) is unacceptable. There is nothing about his relations with Pope Nicholas V or Pope Calixtus III (invasions of Umbria, which ended in Calixtus refusing to recognize the succession of Ferrante an reclaiming the Neapolitan fief). No bibliography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicedomino (talkcontribs) 02:53, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


Let me suggest (after four weeks of waiting for a response): J. Ruis Serra, "Catalanes y Aragonenses en la corte de Calixto III," Analecta sacra Tarraconensia 3 (1927) 193-330. On Naples: José Ametller y Vinyas, Alfonso V de Aragón en Italia, y la crisis religiosa del siglo XV Tomo II (Gerona 1904). A. F. C. Ryder, "La politica italiana di Alfonso d' Aragona (1442-1458)," Archivio storico per le province napoletane n.s. 38 (1958) 43-106; 39 (1959); 306-345; 41 (1961) 9-46. E. Pontieri, Per la storia del regno di Ferrante I d'Aragona re di Napoli: Studi e ricerche (Napoli 1969). E. Pontieri, Alfonso il Magnanimo, Re di Napoli (1435-1458) (Napoli 1975). Alan Frederick Charles Ryder, The Kingdom of Naples under Alfonso the Magnanimous: the Making of a Modern State (Oxford: Clarendon 1976; 1990). Miguel Navarro Sorni, Callisto III, Alfonso Borgia, e Alfonso il Magnanimo (Roma 2006).

172.190.146.135 (talk) 05:45, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced claims[edit]

The 'Art and administration' section is dubious throughout; I've added citation tags and removed this claim:

However, the classics had not refined his taste, for he was amused by setting itinerant scholars, who swarmed to his court, to abuse one another in the indescribably filthy Latin scolding matches which were then the fashion

This is in bad style, makes general claims about the subject, and has no attribution. I do not think it belongs in this article in this form. --AgonRex (talk) 00:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Amusing. It may be what you say, but the text is from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica, as is "the worst of the uncited claims". [1] Carlstak (talk) 01:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm surprised. Feel free to revert if you'd like to add that citation. --AgonRex (talk) 01:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
I shall restore the claims and paraphrase from the lurid style. Thanks for find the source, Carlstak. --AgonRex (talk) 02:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Nice job on the re-edits. It should be said that the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica was replete with blatantly biased, even racist, writing. The "lurid" style is at least entertaining, albeit not necessarily expressed from a neutral point of view. Carlstak (talk) 03:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)