Talk:Ali Hewson

http://alihewson.com/ - Website

http://alihewson.com/ That is not her official website. If you want proof read: http://alihewson.com/contact.htm, where the webmaster states:

"Please remember, this is an unofficial site; I am not in any way acquainted with Ali Hewson nor do I have any of her contact information or the contact information of any public relations representative."

The website is full of commercial ads and has nothing to do with an official website... —Preceding unsigned comment added by NBGWiki (talk • contribs) 06:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Weasel words in criticism section

What critics argue? Let's remove weasel words and add in inline cites - not just here but to the whole article. Chupper 14:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Notability?

I'm not sure whether the article successfully describes how the subject is notable on their own. The heart of this article is about the person's relationship with Bono, and if this were the element that made the subject notable, it could better be folded into the article on Bono. Without this section, what would be left is the trivia section and a few other lines. This suggests to me that the article needs to be shored up to establish notability, or else should be folded into Bono. Please post your thoughts here, particularly with reference to the Wikipedia guidelines on biographies. --Zippy posted 01:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC), updated 6:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Article definitely needs to be worked on, but I would not turn into a section in "Bono". That would be too confusing. I'll see what I can do to it over the next few days. Chupper 22:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

04152007 Edits

I've hopefully confirmed notability through the multiple references added. I've also reworked the sections - adding several and removing trivia. I've also removed two categories, Irish feminists and Irish anglicans. I didn't find any references for that anywhere. I also moved the page per Wikipedia's common names policy. Chupper 16:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Ali Hewson/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk · contribs) 19:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

Prose:

• In the lead: "Hewson has been mentioned as a possible Labour Party candidate for President of Ireland but no such attempt has been made." This would be better if it were rephrased in the active voice.
  • I've changed this to "Tabloids have mentioned Hewson as a possible ..." Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
• "She was especially set against the THORP component being opened." It would be good if you could rephrase this to give the reader a better sense of what this is without having to click the link.
  • I've expanded this out to Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant, clarified that it was under construction, and I've added a link in the sentence before for nuclear reprocessing. To try to explain here what nuclear reprocessing does seems out of scope. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
• "She was aware from the outset of her activities that her own wealth would make her vulnerable to "Ladies who lunch" remarks" - readers may not know what's meant by this type of remark. This sounds like something she may have stated herself, in which case I'd recommend simply including it as a direct quote in order to avoid adding interpretation in order to explain what's meant here.
  • I've expanded this to explain what it means in this context, per the source. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
• Explain "abseil"
  • In American English this is rappelling, but abseiling is the British English term, which is what this article uses overall. See for example these Google News Archive links, where the term is in common use in newspapers in Britain, Ireland, New Zealand, etc but not by any newspapers in the United States. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
• Explain BNFL
  • I've expanded this out to British Nuclear Fuels Limited, which should be self-descriptive. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
• "Her only publicly known musical performance is a 2012 duet with her husband whilst taking on Lady Gaga's "Telephone" " - This is unclear for me - please rephrase
  • Completely redone now, should be clearer. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Nice work as always. I'm so glad for the work you and the other U2 Wikiproject members continue to put into these awesome articles. I just learned a lot, and that after being an enormous U2 fan for nearly 20 years. Lemurbaby (talk) 19:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the review and the kind words. I didn't know most of this either until I started reading old newspaper articles. In addition to these responses, I also tweaked a few of your direct copyedits. I removed both my "less affluent" and your "working class" characterisation of Raheny, because looking over other sources I see conflicting portrayals of the town's socio-economic status. The article already describes her father as an electrician and her mother as a housewife who hoped her daughter would become a secretary, and I think that gets across the family's status. And I qualified the initial 'songs inspired by' language, because Stokes (the main source) usually doesn't claim certainty, including for "Another Time, Another Place". Wasted Time R (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks great! Definitely GA material. Congratulations on a well-researched article that no doubt required considerable scouring of sources. Lemurbaby (talk) 16:16, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again! Wasted Time R (talk) 00:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

PICTURE

I think a picture of Ali hewson will help. Anyone can load some? My internet permissions don't allow me to. Thanks//Only Love Can Heal Such A Scar// (talk) 20:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia has an extremely restrictive image rights policy. You cannot use photos you see in newspapers or magazines or find on the web. For the most part, only photos taken by Wiki contributors themselves can be used. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:06, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Accident

Recently Ali has an accident with a squad. I was wondering in which part of the article can I post thatMissBono (talk) 20:22, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a guideline WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, which basically says that not everything a newspaper reports about a subject needs to go into the Wikipedia article about that subject. In this case, there were news reports like this one last month that described the injury, but just a couple of weeks later, there is this news report that says she's had a speedy recovery and is out attending fashion shows. So it does not look like this injury has had any lasting effect upon her life. Given that, it does not need to be in the article. In contrast, Bono's back injury in 2010 caused a major leg of a U2 tour to be postponed for a year, so that mention of that injury does belong in his article. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

height matter

where did someone found the fact that Ali is 1.57 m??? The only place i could find that informartion was at IMDb and all of you have said before that IT IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE...Miss Bono (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

You added that as part of this edit a few months ago. Most of the edit was unnecessary and was backed out, but the infobox height remained. You are right, IMDB is not to be used for things like this, so go ahead and remove it. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:03, 28 March 2013 (UTC)