Talk:All Saints' Church, Wittenberg

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 10, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Martin Luther posted his 95 Theses on the doors of All Saints' Church, Wittenberg, Germany (pictured), in which he is also buried?

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95 Theses[edit]

The posting of the 95 theses on the church door is currently presented as historical fact. Is this justified?--Boson (talk) 07:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we ought to throw in a allegedly or two? Benjamin ^{Scrīptum est - Fecī} 21:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something like "is said to" might fit in with the style better. I see some German texts talk about the "legend" (Legende), but that might be interpreted too negatively in English. I suppose Wikipedia rules might prefer an attribution, but perhaps that is not necessary since there is a reference to the main article on The Ninety-Five Theses, where the various sources are discussed in more detail. --Boson (talk) 22:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review: Fail[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:
The lead is nicely written. The prose quality is good, not the best.

B. MoS compliance:
Section headings: "All Saints' today", the name of the article should not be in a heading.
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:
Needs reliable sources. List of un-reliable sources: Ref 2 is a online social bookmarking community. ref 20 leads to "about the book", not the claim referred. Ref 18 is a commercial tours website. ref 6 is again a promotional website. [1] is promotinal site of the city Wittenberg. Thus claims like "the most photographed door in Europe" are doubted, though the historical facts can be trusted IMO.

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
"The tombs of Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon" has 5 refs not neccessary. "A quote, "Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott" (English: "A mighty fortress is our God"), from one of Luther's hymns, encircles the tower" has 4 refs.

C. No original research:
refs needed for: "it quickly evolved into an important academic and worship center. "; "A tradition of burying academic dignitaries of the university at the church developed." "On November 10, 1858, exactly 375 years after the day of birth of Martin Luther, the new doors were commemorated at a formal ceremony" "These doors are among the most photographed in Europe" (better reliable source needed). New windows. See WP:REF.
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:
The officail website of city discusses so many aspects of the church like the altar, portaits, statues, tombs and tombstones in detail, which i see missing in the article. At other sources, i saw mention of holy Relics in the church:holy relics [2]. Not so sure ,as a non-expert, of what else needs to be written apart from the above.

B. Focused:
"New windows". Is it an WP:UNDUE????
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Legend of 95 theses: [3][4]. "(contested by some)" does not clearly mean that thing may not have happened and may be a myth.
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Image:Schlosskirche Wittenberg inside.jpg: what inside part of the church, is this?? Image:Wittenberg elector.jpg should have the name as Frederick_III:Elector_of_Saxony.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
Good luck with improving this article!

Some links I found about the Castle Church: [5][6][7][8][9]

The 1-2 liners paras must be expanded. Details should be included. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 07:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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All Saints Church?[edit]

It's not without irony, the name All Saints Church. When it turned Lutheran, early in the 16th century, there was no longer talk of the original dedication "Allerheiligen". Schlosskirche (Palace church) would be a better article name, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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1510 book[edit]

94 newly-uploaded images: Commons:Category:The display of the highly praised reliquaries of the church of All Saints at Wittenberg (BM 1911,0708.1)\The display of the highly praised reliquaries of the church of All Saints at Wittenberg. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]