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This needs a cleanup, and the articles on Nayanars and South India's 75 Apostles of Bhakti, as well as other related articles have to be editted into coherence. As of now, all these articles have redundant information, and information that's in the wrong place. Thevaram and Thiruvaachagam have to be put in Nayanars and not Alvars, and a listing of all the alvars might make more sense. Also, more info on their compositions and deeds. Same goes for the Nayanars article, and I think that the "South India..." article has to be totally redone (and renamed). Nayanars is linked up with the rest of the Hinduism topics, and this one should be too. - shash 13:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Also: this article needs replacing the rather breathless praise of the Alvars with more objective History of Religions-oriented language - Ohammer 13:48, 3 March 2006

I believe that the date given for the existence and compositions of Alvars is incorrect. The date of discovery of their works by Nathamuni has been attributed as dates of their existence. I have books published by Vishishtra-Dvaitha research center and Nrihasimha Priya trust to establish these points. How do I go about correcting this obvious mistake. Please let me know.

Hawkeye26 20:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Table, please insert under column heading 2 the name of the state and in the column of months give the English equivalent names to make the table more informative for the non-tamil readers. Also there are some valid comments in the discussion page which needs to be incorporated in the main article.--Nvvchar (talk) 10:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Alvars; their place, month and star of birth not correct?Places not correctly mention.[edit]

Please verify once.Andal birth Place not Sri Villiputhur in past.thats Tiru Villiputhur while her time period.After non Tamil kings ruled Tamilnadu they changed some city names "Tiru in to Sri".Example. Tiruvarangam-srirangam,Tiruperumputhur-sriperumputhur.Like Tiruvilliputhur-srivilliputhur.Any way what ever may it is,but while Writing the article dont forget to mention the original name.Even now also it is called Tiruvilliputhur.[[1]]Eshwar.om (talk) 10:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I beg to disagree. When Andal was born, the place was Srivillipuththur. Andal's Thiruppavai shows that Thamizh was already influenced by Sanskrit at that time. Even the oldest Thamizh records have a few Sanskrit words in them. You say that Srivillipuththur is called Thiruvillipuththur today; can you tell me why Thiruvarangam is still called Srirangam? One more point - Among the Thamizh-origin dynasties of Pandiyas and Sozhas, one can find many rulers with Sanskrit names. To the best of my knowledge, the cities have been renamed to remove Sanskrit words because of recent Dravidian movements encouraged by politicians who have been criticized for encouraging reverse-discrimination and Thamizh-extremism in order to get votes, when the names of themselves and their sons are not in pure Thamizh.

I would have appreciated your efforts if you had, instead of asking for this correction, asked the admins to chance Alvar to Azhwar, since in Thamizh it is 'Azhwar' and not 'Alwar'. 'Alwar' is used by people who are not fluent enough to pronouce 'zha' properly. Because of people like them and because of others who ignore them, Thamizh has become Tamil, Azhwars have become Alwars, Vizhuppuram has become Villupuram, Mazhai (rain) has become Malai (mountain), and the worst of all, Vazhi (way) has become Vali (pain).

Request to admins - please replace 'la' with 'zha' wherever necessary on Wikipedia. Many pages have this problem, which is a serious issue since most Indian visitors of Wikipedia either do not know phonetics or do not bother to read the correct pronunciation of words. I understand that this is not the correct place to discuss this issue; please guide me to the correct forum so that I can request this change.