Talk:Anaheim Hills, Anaheim, California

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[edit] Communities mentioned aren't representative

The individual communities mentioned within Anaheim Hills (Viewpointe, Copa de Oro, etc) aren't representative of the communities of Anaheim Hills as a whole. The communities listed are mainly the ones with very expensive homes; other budget homes or middle-income homes are not mentioned. The only exceptional community is probably Peralta Hills, as it extremely large, and one of the first to be developed.

-Brady J. Yoon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.203.60 (talk) 07:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo of Mountain Park

I used to live in Anaheim Hills and may have a picture of the area Mountain Park will be built on.24.9.123.130 (talk) 14:56, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

That'd be swell. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citations Required

Do not remove {{fact}} notes regarding material without a reference unless you're adding a reference. I'm sick of these hostile edits; one more and I'll request another (longer) protection. —  X  S  G  08:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

How about you go work on deleting the other 105 Orange County articles that have MUCH fewer citations than this one does. In fact, this one has more citations than any city or community article in the entire county. Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, etc. all need major cleaning up. This one is fine. I have monitored this particular article, and it always comes under more scrutiny than any other article in Orange County, and it is the article with the most sources! I am going to go ahead and delete ALL the notable residents on the Newport Beach since NOT ONE of them is cited if you continue deleting things from this article because each word is not sourced. 75.43.204.194 (talk) 19:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Other articles not meeting Wikipedia's reference standards is no rationale for allowing this one to get away with it. Plus, you're a pain in my ass so I'm unable to assume good faith for your edits and therefore will hold them up to a higher level of scrutiny. You brought it on yourself. And now, since you've done it again, I'm requesting protection, as promised. —  X  S  G  08:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I went on and put the Newport Beach article under the same scrutiny of this article. Cheers. 75.43.204.194 (talk) 19:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Bully for you. I'd better go check those edits, now. —  X  S  G  08:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Will you look at that... your additions of the {{fact}} tag were incorrectly dated (you made the edit in June, noy May). You might want to go back and fix that. —  X  S  G  08:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's true that many, many settlesments have unsourced "notable resident" sections. But that doesn't mean references are never necessary. WP:V is a core policy and the presence of non-compliant material isn't an excuse (WP:other stuff exists). If someone challenges an unsourced entry then it's fair to tag it and, eventually, remove it if no source can be found. It's even allowed (though considdred less polite) to remove it immediately. So lets' let the tags remain and try to find sources for the material. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 08:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh Jeez, don't tell me it's Ericsaindon2 back again... didn't he get banned forever? Flipping hell, this religious war over Anaheim Hills has been going for over 2 years now. --JQ (talk) 07:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting the revert...

Ericsaindon2 placed his version of the Anaheim Hills page at 07:17, May 17, 2008. Not recognizing this as Ericsandon2, I modified the results heavily, stripping away all of the peacocking and POV, and adding many {{fact}} tags for anything that needed a reference or had a questionable source. It's now June 23, 2008, and there have been many substantive edits between then and now. Enough was cut from the article that the user (who turns out to be Ericsaindon2) has desired to add a great deal of the content back (all of which was reverted). I believe it's too late to revert back to the article as it was on May 17 and if there is questionable material, please strike it and bring it up for discussion here. I think the article as it is now is encyclopedic and useful, and we're in the process of dealing with uncited material. —  X  S  G  20:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

If you take responsibility for the material then that's fine. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Will. I'm proud of my contributions to Wikipedia, and, having lived here, this is one of the pages I like to monitor and contribute to. I'll take responsibility for the material. Confirming the notables section is what will take the most time. I'll comment the unconfirmed notables out and add them as they get confirmed as opposed to the other way around. —  X  S  G  20:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ashley Force

I have looked for a reliable source which states that Ashley Force resides in Anaheim Hills and, to date, have not been able to find any. A link to her fan site is insufficient unless said fan site specifically mentions that she resides in Anaheim, California. A link to tv.com's open-access trivia page is insufficient. And, for the record, I hold myself to these same guidelines: I know personally that Rod Carew lived in Anaheim Hills, however I can't find an source for this, either, which means it does not belong in Wikipedia. —  X  S  G  03:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The web site I used as a reference, www.ashleyforce.com, seemed to be pretty official and was linked through the John Force Racing corporate site. The tab on the site under statistics states that she resides in Anaheim Hills. I believe this is a good source. Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 03:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree that if you can link directly to the information, it's a good source. You can't expect someone to scour a website looking for confirmation of a fact. —  X  S  G  03:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a reference! Now, wanna help me find one for Rod? ;) —  X  S  G  03:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me out with that link (you fixed it just as I figured it out). Now I'll try to help you out with your link on Rod Carew! [update: See NY Times article now added]. Alanraywiki (talk) 03:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Teamwork! Thanks! —  X  S  G  03:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, this is your favorite banned user, and I wanted to let you know that the person you blocked was not me.75.43.207.159 (talk) 07:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Community Associations

Within the section on Government, there is this paragraph:

Twenty three community associations are within Anaheim Hills, led by the Anaheim Hills Planned Community Association, which oversees the entire community of Anaheim Hills. Two councils represent the community, the Canyon Hills Community Council and the Anaheim Hills Citizens Coalition.

I can't find anything to substantiate this, and I don't believe that the Anaheim Hills Planned Community Association covers all of Anaheim Hills. It is my understanding that the Anaheim Hills Planned Community Association only covers the master planned community built by Texaco in the 70s. It does not include the area of Anaheim Hills east of Canyon Rim along Serrano (i.e. The Highlands, all of the Summit communities.)

I think it would be better to remove this paragraph and replace it with one talking about the East Anaheim District Neighborhood Council. The neighborhood councils are organized by the City to help set priorities for CDBG funds. This would also give us a good way to define the boundaries of Anaheim Hills in some meaningful way.

I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts. Grant (talk) 00:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Events

There are a few notable annual events in Anaheim Hills that I think bear noting in this article. What are people's thoughts of including a section on the Fourth of July parade and fireworks show and on the fiesta at San Antonio Catholic Church. I will admit, these events probably don't matter to most people, but if somebody is already reading the article on Anaheim Hills, this might be information of use to them. Grant (talk) 00:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

If there there are reliable, 3rd party sources for the events then they're probably noteworthy. However we shouldn't seek to entice people to attend the events or tell them where to park. If there are historic or especially notable things about the events those should be included. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 01:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Will Beback is correct, and I'd like to further add that we as Wikipedian editors need to be careful about not turning articles like this one into a travel brochure. It must be encyclopedic. We're a team, however, so if there's something you'd like to say, find a second-party source that documents it so we can add it as a reference, and say it. If it needs help, we're here to do so. Contrariwise, we'd love your help with cleaning up any of our messes.  :) —  X  S  G  04:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)