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Contents 1 Broken Link 2 Criticisms of Criticisms 3 Contemporary Anarcha-feminists 4 Individualist anarchist feminism 5 Sketchy sentence 6 Social anarchism

[edit] Broken Link

The link to RAG website is broken - there is a temporary blogspot in operation ragdublin.blogspot.com but wikipedia won't let me put it in - cos it's a blogspot? 83.70.54.90 (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms of Criticisms

Two problems with the Criticisms section:

1. The section has only criticism of the name - anarcha- vs. anarcho- feminism, and lacks any other criticism of substance. In doing so, it suggests that other criticisms do not exist. I'm sure there are some.
2. The discussion of naming should probably be in some kind of sub-section; otherwise its own importance is elevated inappropriately.

Now, if only I had some ideas about the standing criticsms on the topic, I could actually be useful!

JBazuzi 05:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

JBazuzi, your 100% correct. The current criticism section is probably original research. It should be remoed and replaced with a reliably sourced criticism of anarcha-feminism/anarcho-feminism--Cailil 18:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I removed the entire section as per WP:OR. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 01:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contemporary Anarcha-feminists

We need some prominent anarcha-feminists listed in the article, preferable with links to their Wikipedia articles. PhilLiberty 04:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. McElroy is not the only one, of course. I also did a minor rewrite of the material PhilLiberty inserted about McElroy and individual feminism. See Talk:Feminism for further explanation, but basically to my knowledge McElroy is the foremost proponent of "i-feminism", and so I contextualized the material that way, and also reworded a somewhat awkwardly phrased (and slightly misleading) reference to differences in Europe & US. --lquilter 14:16, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Individualist anarchist feminism

The last two sentences of the intro paragraph don't belong in the intro, in my opinion. It should go later in the article, perhaps as its own section. --Billyjoekini 21:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Done. --lquilter 23:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sketchy sentence

Early feminist Mary Wollstonecraft held proto-anarchist views^{[citation needed]}, and William Godwin, her husband, is often considered an important precursor to anarchist feminism^{[citation needed]}. -

• I have removed this sentence for the time being. I am not convinced that reliable sources could be found to support it, particularly in the case of Wollstonecraft. I have read a fair bit on MW (see bibliographies on Mary Wollstonecraft and the pages on her works) and none of these sources makes a point of emphasizing her proto-anarchism. Godwin is often considered a proto-anarchist, if not an anarchist, but rarely have I seen him classified as a feminist (see caption on Fanny Imlay). I think the more precise formulation might be that others took Godwin's works to their logical extreme while he did not. However, I do not have any sources on this - I am only speculating because these statements are so at odds with what I have read. Historians of feminism and anarchism might read the past differently than the literary critics and biographers I have read so far. Until we have some solid evidence for these claims, I feel it is best to remove them. Awadewit | talk 14:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Certainly the "Mary Wollstonecraft held proto-anarchist views" is a new to me. I've not come across anything saying that before either--Cailil ^talk 14:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Social anarchism

Is Anarcha-feminism considered to be a form of social anarchism?--Fang 23 (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I've never come across a reference that says so, and I would be wary about including it as it is a form of anarchism primarily characterised by feminism, rather than the manner of social co-operation that characterises anarcho-syndicalism, collectivist anarchism and anarcho-communism. Incidently, would you be interested in summarizing Anarcha-feminism for the Anarchist schools of thought article, similar to what you did for National-Anarchism? Regards, Skomorokh ^incite 15:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes I think I will summarize Anarcha-feminism in Anarchist schools of thought article (maybe tomorrow or another day or today im not sure exactly when).--Fang 23 (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Much appreciated, thanks. Skomorokh ^incite 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Done![1]--Fang 23 (talk) 04:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)