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December 17, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

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Parents Television Council[edit]

Is this an ad for the Parents Television Council? Why are there two separate references to the same negative reaction from this group? If anything it deserves a small sentence, and that is it.124.171.11.137 (talk) 09:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:And I'm Joyce Kinney/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ruby2010 (talk · contribs) 05:20, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments[edit]

Wikilink Stewie in plot section
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Series veterans Peter Shin and James Purdum, both of whom having previously served as animation directors, served as supervising directors for the episode, with Alex Carter, Andrew Goldberg, Elaine Ko, Spencer Porter and Aaron Blitzstein serving as staff writers for the episode.[1] This sentence can probably be split in two
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The episode served as a continuation of the season premiere, in which local news anchor Diane Simmons was killed after being shot with a sniper rifle by Stewie, along with several other secondary characters.[2] So Stewie shot these secondary characters? Or am I misreading the sentence?
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The two then reveal their darkest secrets, with Lois revealing that she had participated in the making... Switch it up a little
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For the cultural refs section, I'm not sure citing the episode is suitable here. For instance, (keeping in mind that I have not seen this episode) is it blatantly stated that "Quest for Fur" a reference to the 1981 film Quest for Fire? Having seen past Family Guy episodes, I can kind of doubt it. Otherwise, some of these references may constitute original research
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was watched by 7.08 million viewers it -> Family Guy
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unitalicize Golden Globe Awards
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Television critics reacted mostly mixed to negative toward the episode, calling the storyline "pretty dull." Only one source called it "pretty dull", but this sentence indicates multiple people said it
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He concluded his review by praising "the burning bush" joke, and ultimately giving the episode a C- rating, the worst rating of the night, being beaten by the American Dad! episode "Fart-Break Hotel", The Cleveland Show episode "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Roberta?", The Simpsons episode "Flaming Moe", and the Bob's Burgers episode "Crawl Space". This is a pretty messy sentence (note the bolded part giving -> gave; may need to be shortened/rewritten).
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In a slightly more positive review of the episode Insert bolded
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Add an imdb link to external links?
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What makes this and [1] a reliable source?
- Removed the Unreality Shout reference, but the Gawker reference is reliable in my opinion. It is one of the largest online news sources, and has a Wikipedia article as well. Gage (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not too sure about the screenshot. Is there a better one from the episode that better depicts both characters and the main storyline?
- Removed. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The lead mentions the Parents Television Council, but it is not in the main body of the article.
- Done. Gage (talk) 01:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the season 9 DVD is being released December 13. I wonder if the article should wait before being promoted until any possible special features have been added? This would especially help beef up the information on episode writing in the production section, which is pretty short currently. Thoughts? I'll place the article on hold for seven days. Let me know if you need an extension, particularly about this part on the DVD. Ruby 2010/2013 05:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was assuming that the article would still be pending review by the time the DVD came out, but thought it still mostly met the GA standards so I nominated it. The DVD will help, so I will try to address what I can now, and then fix whatever else following the DVD release. Gage (talk) 07:13, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine to me. Will keep on hold until the DVD edits to the article. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 17:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you finished adding everything to the article from the audio commentary or other special features? Are the only notable things really for just the cultural refs? Nothing on writing or voice work? Ruby 2010/2013 00:03, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. There wasn't really anything notable worth adding. I think the article looks fine now though. Gage (talk) 01:53, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good then. Pass for GA. Ruby 2010/2013 22:20, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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