Talk:Animal slaughter

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Food and drink (Rated Start-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
 
WikiProject Death (Rated Start-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Animal rights (Rated Start-class, Top-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Animal rights, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of animal rights on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion.
Start-Class article Start  This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Top  This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
 

Vandalism on Talk Page[edit]

Talk pages are not for debate -- just discussion of the article in question. I went ahead and reverted the conversation in fear that it would generate too much off-topic discussion. 74.242.99.231 22:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

POV...[edit]

I don't want to edit it at fear of being biased in the opposite direction, but the article as it stands is clearly turning a blind eye to the ubiquitous animal torture that occurs daily in the United States. At mass slaughterhouses, not to mention other places, the techniques described are often used haphazardly and with minimum regard for the wellbeing of the animals. For example, the "bolt stunner" is not 100% in producing unconsciousness, which often leaves an animal writhing through its death after its throat has been slit. Surely someone who isn't employed by the meat industry can make the adjustments. --Tothebarricades (talk) 22:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)hdbchdhgrfgrygfubhdbhfgdrfgrbfhrgfrgrbhrgvhgjtghuhguthgutguthdkhgdhgthugib


Nonsense. The stunning is not haphazard, because adrenaline release and excitement will lower the value of the meat. Animals can writhe after being stunned only because the stunning puts them into an epileptic fit. This has been known for decades. Livestock are very, very predictable creatures and handling them correctly to avoid panic is intensely cultivated by management of the slaughterhouse, because it would slow down the the through-put of the factory. Animal-rights jihadis prefer to deliberately ignore and lie about these biological/veterinary facts of life for the same reason that muslim jihadis tell teenage boys that if they carry out a suicide bombing, they'll earn 70 virgins. Reference: www.templegrandin.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.215.7.56 (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

@ unsigned, wrong. Quoting templegrandin? Is that a joke? I agree with Tothebarricades.

Proposed Merger[edit]

I am proposing that this page be merged with the page "Animal Slaughter" because these pages are essentially the same. Since the slaughtering of livestock is just a subsection of animal slaughtering, I would include the comments made on this page after the merger. Both pages require a great deal of editing. However since the same editing mades to be made on both pages, it makes sense to merge the pages before any editing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DivaNtrainin (talkcontribs) 22:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


Big mistake in this article[edit]

In the United States, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) specifies the approved methods of livestock slaughter:[1]...

No, the Jewish and Muslim methods of slaughter are, by US law, defined as humane. These are methods of stunning. RPSM (talk) 14:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

2) After the animal is stunned, it is killed. This is done by severing the carotid arteries (2) and the jugular veins (4) with a knife. The method of killing is the same in all slaughter unless the animal is decapitated (Jhakta) or strangled, which is done by some tribe in Northern India. Non-Jews and non-Muslims are not too particular as to how the severing of the blood vessels occurs (in an Italian paper it is mentioned that sometimes only one carotid artery is cut). Shehitah is a refined method that takes into account that the animal is sensible and conscious, and therefore has a number of provisions to lessen sensation. see Shehita RPSM (talk) 14:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Slaughter[edit]

This is a loose definition. Please feel free to create a clear distinct definition and category.--Jondel (talk) 07:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed Merger[edit]

I am proposing that this page be merged with the page "Slaughter (Livestock)" because these pages are essentially the same. Since the slaughtering of livestock is just a subsection of animal slaughtering, I would include the comments made on this page after the merger. Both pages require a great deal of editing. However since the same editing mades to be made on both pages, it makes sense to merge the pages before any editing them. --DivaNtrainin —Preceding comment was added at 22:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC) --DivaNtrainin

Yes, I guess they should be merged. I feel that editors/contributers to the animal slaughter want to focus a bit more on cruelty, animal ethics & rights, etc while at the livestock, it is more on the meat/butchering/food process. Do be bold, feel free and merge if you/anyone are/is up to it.--Jondel (talk) 23:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
It's merged now. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

this point might be trivial[edit]

the third photo down from the right is really only semi-accurate in its description -- the cow is being restrained immediately before a captive bolt is used. however, the captive bolt is (as we all know) used only to stun the cow, to make it unconscious, prior to slaughter. the cow is then slaughtered by having its throat cut. i just don't want any readers to get the idea that the captive bolt is the only step in the slaughter of cattle. i'm wondering if a minor tweak of the caption would make the photo more accurate in its description? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.214.126 (talk) 20:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

link problem in the also see section[edit]

i noticed when you click the "Cattle Slaughter" link that you are taken to the breast article. is this vandalism or a mistake?

Thank you for noticing and bringing attention to this. This has to be vandalism.--Jondel (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

waste[edit]

  Hi. My name is KrisAnn Rose Thompson Haddad. I am an Irish Catholic Celt. We ate our "pets" growing up which caused great heartache; however, appreciation. My pet sal Pinko went from like 10 pounds to 500 and I cried and cried as I ate her WITHOUT WASTE. It tortures my soul on the waste in America with animals. If a famine ever hit this country we'd remember these sacred souls that are destroyed daily as waste every day in today's society. I'm not a black witch but honestly, I wish they'd get on top of their game and dish(no pun intended) out consequences to these criminal behaviors and attitudes of entitlement to destroy lives aka Life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.176.54.136 (talk) 18:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC) 

≤have a experiens in slaugterhous to kill the animal.--180.190.245.43 (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2014 (UTC)