Talk:Anton Schmid

in honor of the man named Anton Schmid

During the few minutes it took Kovner to tell of the help that had come from a German sergeant, a hush settled over the courtroom; it was as though the crowd had spontaneously decided to observe the usual two minutes of silence in honor of the man named Anton Schmid. And in those two minutes, which were like a sudden burst of light in the midst of impenetrable, unfathomable darkness, a single thought stood out clearly, irrefutably, beyond question — how utterly different everything would be today in this courtroom, in Israel, in Germany, in all of Europe, and perhaps in all countries of the world, if only more such stories could have been told. (taken from: Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in Jerusalem) --79.222.191.100 (talk) 04:57, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

what happened to his photo?

i got here from a link with a photo. article has no images. so...  ? Cramyourspam (talk) 05:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Translation of the line "Die Kinder haben sie auf dem Wege gleich an die Bäume angeschlagen"

The english translation of the line "Die Kinder haben sie auf dem Wege gleich an die Bäume angeschlagen" is most probably not correct. The meaning is rather "They nailed the children onto the trees (i.e. crucified them)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.107.83 (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Anton Schmid/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K.e.coffman (talk · contribs) 04:44, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• I will be reviewing the article; will start tomorrow. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:44, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Initial comments

The article looks to be in a great shape. Some prose suggestions, along with questions / comments, to begin with. They are listed in the order they appear on the page:

• Opening sentence: "was an Austrian electrician who saved Jews during..." -- Suggest changing to "Austrian recruit in the German Wehrmacht who saved..." My rationale is that Schmid was saving Jews in his capacity as a soldier (and that's what also makes the story so unique). "Electrician" can be mentioned as: "A devout but apolitical Roman Catholic and an electrician by profession, Schmid..."

 Done

• "begging" --> suggest "pleading"

 Done

• He was executed for treason --> it does not appear to be clear what the charge was, at least as per Wette's The Wehrmacht: History, Myth, Reality, p. 287. You can simply say "He was executed..." here, as well as elsewhere.

 Done

• In the infobox: a. Criminal charge | Treason; b. Criminal penalty | Execution -- Suggesting removing these two parameters, as they make Schmid sound like a criminal. Suggest instead populating the "Cause of death" parameter with something like: "Convicted by a military court and executed"

 Done

• he was apprenticed --> he apprenticed

 Done

• with finding German soldiers --> with collecting German soldiers

 Done

• which denied his widow and daughter financial support to which they were entitled... --> which denied his widow and daughter financial support to which they would otherwise have been entitled...

 Done

• Manfred Wieninger --> {{illm|Manfred Wieninger|de|Manfred_Wieninger}}

 Done

• On Günther Rüdel, Wette says that he participated in one case of the People's Court, where he fought for an acquittal. (Wette's The Wehrmacht, p. 279)

 Done

• However, the Third Reich's treason convictions of Wehrmacht soldiers have not been annulled.[41] -- this is cited to a 2009 source. I believe that this has changed since (?)

--K.e.coffman (talk) 00:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I looked and could not easily find a source stating this. If it were annulled, I expect it would have been announced in the English-language media. However, I could quite possibly have missed sometihng and would happily amend this if there is RS stating otherwise. Catrìona (talk) 00:47, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I may have confused it with the rehabilitation of deserters, which took place in 2002: "One example: the late rehabilitation of Wehrmacht deserters by the German Bundestag in 2002, for which Wette is involved." Source. Also here: [1]. To be on the safe side, I would preface the statement with "As of 2009,...".

I will work on the rest next. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:16, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Looks good; however, I changed "Executed by Nazi authorities" to "military court", as Schmid was arrested and tried by the Wehrmacht, not by the civilian administration. The former phrase could suggest that. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Assessment against GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail: