Talk:Antonov An-2

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[edit] Happy 60-th Birthday

Ан-2 Кукурузник - has it's Happy Birthday today, wish you clear sky Анна and be the same good in your 70'th 80'th and so on :-)!!! Oleg_Str —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.124.223.137 (talk) 18:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Events?

I fail to see what's so historically significant about an An-2 getting shot down while engaging South Vietmanese naval forces. An-2s were historically heavily engaged in military actions (especially during the Korean War and African brush wars) and I fail to see how this incident is encyclopedic at all. 24.9.10.235 21:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

It was the only case known by me :-) Hence, the "importance". Write the "Combat Service" section, if you may. I believe, it'd be of interest. --jno 11:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
2 24.9.10.235: BTW, why not to register? --jno 11:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

If someone could add some images of more special variants to this article, I think that would help. Some good images are found in the reference links 24.9.10.235 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

There are old good well known © problems... I post my own photos, when possible (listed here). --jno 09:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

There are some home-grown silhouette drawings of special variants in the article on the An-2 on Greg Goebel's Air Vectors website. They are his drawings and he has declared them public domain.

MrG -- 22 Oct 06

[edit] Kukuruznik?

Is it really called kukuruznik after Po-2? Pibwl ←« 21:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is. --jno 08:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
If you say so :-) Pibwl ←« 20:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I do not have any thick printed book in hard cover to confirm the statement. The name for both aircraft is colloqual only. :-P --jno 12:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I mean, that you should know how it is called in Russia :-) Pibwl ←« 20:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I do. "Кукурузник". From "кукуруза" (maize, Indian corn). Just because of common use pattern of low flight (at the level of maize tops). --jno 11:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Уважаемый, jno, пологаю, что всё-же вы ошибаетесь присваивая название кукурузника По-2 и Ан-2. Вероятнее всего наименование кукрузник появилось в 60-е, во время массового применения в сельхозавиации АН-2 и внедрения Никитой Сергеевичем кукурузной агрокульутры. Уж если По-2 и называют кукурузником, то только путая его силуэт биплана с Ан-2. Кст, Аннушка наименование мне известное. --213.228.99.160 12:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I wrote an An-2 article for my website and got, for what it's worth, feedback from a Russian who said that the nickname "Annushka" was unknown to him, but that "Kukuruznik" was known to all, and in fact was a general term for any cropduster.

MrG -- 22 Oct 06

It's common thing here - different societies use different names. Just like "tushkan" (jerboa) and "tushka" (body) for Tu-134 and Tu-154 respectively - they are widely used but not in "all contextes". --jno 08:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
(ADAM)kukuruznik was the name of Po-2(U-2). It was in the Polish Encycklopedia of Aviation (WNT Warshaw 1970)and AN-2 was called "kolchoznik" in the same book.
Well, I konow nicknames used by Polish Air Force soliders for different types of machins. Some of them are: Antek (diminutive from Antoni, so could by translated as "Tony") for all constructions of Antonov OKB, but usualy for An-2, szparka ("crack" or "pussy") for SB Lim (MiG-15UTI), tutka ("cornet" or "cigarette tube") for Tu-154, ołówek ("pencil") for MiG-21, suka ("bitch" or "female dog") for Su-7 and Su-20/Su-22 and so on... ;) Radomil talk 19:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Power/mass typo?

Empty weight: 3,300 kg (7,300 lb)
Loaded weight: 5,500 kg (12,000 lb)
Powerplant: ... 1,000 hp (750 kW)
Power/mass: 140 W/kg (0.83 hp/lb)

I believe the last number is missing a zero:

1,000HP/12,000lb = 0.0833 HP/lb

68.239.207.148 (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Combat service

Vietnam Air War Debrief by Robert F. Dorr and Chris Bishop gives shootdowns of two An-2s by US Navy F-4Bs on 20 December 1966, but does not mention any help from the Long Beach . It also mentions the attack on Phou Pha Thi in Laos on 12 January 1968, but says two aircraft were invbolved, not three, stating that it is not clear what ordinace was used. For what its worth, AICG here refers to two An-2s being shot down by CIA UH-1s on the day in question, and lists them as confirmed kills, but whether that counts as a reliable source I'm not sure.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Description of January 12, 1968, attack on Phou Pha Thi in Laos (Limasite 85) is in error. Limasite 85 was a clandestine ground directed bombing site employing a TSQ-81 radar manned by US Air Force personnel of the 1CEG. The attack was ineffective. Sources say four AN-2's were involved, but only two attacked, with gunfire and what were believed to be mortar shells. See Limasite 85 and limasite 85 shootdown. Print source: Christopher Robbins, The Ravens : Pilots of the Secret War of Laos, page 63. Pawyilee (talk) 06:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Longest production run

The Beechcraft Bonanza first flew on 22 December 1945 and was certified on 25 March 1947, so it is older than the Antonov An-2. Aldo L (talk) 04:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

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