Talk:Appomattox Court House

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Courthouse[edit]

This article states that the courthouse building burned down in 1892 and was not rebuilt within the village of Appomattox Court House but was instead rebuilt at the town of Appomattox, yet someone just posted a current photo of the building. Is that building a reconstruction, a case of mistaken identity, or a photo of the new courthouse in Appomattox? If it is the latter it does not belong in this article. — Joe Kress (talk) 07:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The photo is apparently of the building identified as the Appomattox County Courthouse on the Appomatox Court House National Historical Park Map (except that the photo shows the large tree on the right). Because it burnt and was not rebuilt, I am adding (reconstructed) to the image. The gray buildings on the map no longer exist as confirmed by a Google satellite photo. — Joe Kress (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The disputed photo is of the front of McLean House (look at the photo of the rear of McLean House, same size, orientation and trees surrounding it). 142.109.70.187 (talk) 19:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

No. Look at the roofline of the building. The McLean house has a straight roofline in its both historical and current photos whereas that of the courthouse has a distinct slope from its apex down to its chimney in both its historical and current photos. The official map of the park I linked above also shows these sloped vs straight rooflines. Furthermore, the current photo of the courthouse shows two chimneys on one side, which is confirmed by the official map, whereas the McLean House has only one chimney on each end. — Joe Kress (talk) 19:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Reasons for the many changes made to the article[edit]

The reason for the many changes to the article are:

  • 2. Appomattox Court House is an existing courthouse in Appomattox, Virginia. It is the local county government seat. Sometimes it is referred to as the "new" Appomattox Court House. It is near the Appomattox Station (a new article), while the Appomattox Court House National Historical Park is about 3 miles away.
  • 3. The Old Appomattox Court House, now a new article, was the original courthouse at the village then known as Clover Hill which is now known as the Appomattox Court House National Historical Park.
  • 4. The village of Clover Hill, which today is known as Appomattox Court House National Historical Park, was named after the Clover Hill Tavern, now a new article
  • 5. The history of the McLean house needed to be seperate. It is now a new article and is where General Robert E. Lee surrendered to General Ulysses S. Grant. The Appomattox Court House (old or new) had nothing to do with the surrender.
  • 6. Information on court house towns should go into their appropriate articles or the article on courthouse.
--Doug Coldwell talk 12:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
However - the typical reader is coming to the page, looking for the "old" courthouse, and has to read through most of the current topic to see that the new topic is unrelated to what they're looking for. Tedickey (talk) 13:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.nps.gov/apco/faqs.htm according to the page of the national park, the actual courthouse is "Appomattox Courthouse" (one word) , not "Appomattox Court House" (2 words) --Usyflad10 23:30, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
According to this nps.gov website referred to above
In Virginia many of the towns which were county seats were called "Court House". The building is spelled courthouse (one word) and the town is Court House (two words).
Previously it said
The surrender occurred in the village of Appomattox Court House, Virginia...
Therefore I believe the article is correct as it is now.--Doug Coldwell talk 11:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
The sentence you quoted is in fact correct, but does not have to do with this page. This page is about the actual courthouse according to the first sentence of the page,
The Appomattox Court House is a courthouse in Appomattox, Virginia built in 1892.

It should be

The Appomattox Courthouse is a courthouse in Appomattox, Virginia built in 1892.

--Usyflad10 00:13, 30 April 2010

Changed to "Courthouse". --Doug Coldwell talk 16:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

How could you change the name of the page?--Usyflad10 17:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Well.......it may be a little hard to do - since apparently it needs a discussion why the name change. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Name change. It will be a lot of work to explain to everyone why the need for a name change. However, if you feel it is really necessary, then just follow what the technicians are saying at Wikipedia:Requested moves. I suggest to leave it the way it is since typing in "Appomattox Courthouse" in the Search box will get you where you need to be. Otherwise it will be a long drawn out affair.--Doug Coldwell talk 19:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

oh ok. I guess it'll be too hard to change the name.--Usyflad10 21:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI, a number of the ACW articles use the name "Court House" as two words because that was the spelling at the time of the war. For example, Appomattox Court House National Historical Park and Battle of Appomattox Court House, or Battle of Spotsylvania Court House. I would not recommend changing those titles. Hal Jespersen (talk) 00:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The Point of this Article[edit]

This article appears to be the result of one editor's will imposed against the will of others as well as, indeed, against rationality. Virtually everyone searching Wikipedia for "Appomattox Court House" would be looking for the historic town in Virginia where General Lee surrendered to General Grant. I can't imagine anyone searching Wikipedia for information about the modern, essentially historically-insignificant modern courthouse. If their names were not similar, it would be unlikely that this article about the modern building would even exist. Properly, this article should be about the former town in southern central Virginia, the, site of the surrender of Robert E. Lee to Ulysses S. Grant on April 9, 1865, effectively ending the American Civil War. Virtually deserted after the removal of the county seat to the new town of Appomattox in 1892, it became a national historical monument in 1940 and a national historical park in 1954.Theshoveljockey (talk) 01:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll have to agree and go along with what you say. Perhaps the name of this article should be something like "Appomattox courthouse (modern county seat)" and so note at the top of Appomattox Court House National Historical Park. Then when someone searches for "Appomattox Court House" have a redirect to Appomattox Court House National Historical Park. If this sounds logical to you, you won't have any arguements from me if you just go ahead and do it. Any other ideas?--Doug Coldwell talk 12:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Coordinate error[edit]

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199.66.70.155 (talk) 15:59, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Though you haven't explained what you think is in error, I've emended the coordinates in the article to correspond to the building that this article deals with. Deor (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)