Talk:Arbiter (Halo)

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GA pass and notes[edit]

  • An expansion on the "Role" section would be nice. What is the "Blade of the Prophets"?
  • "A shrine to these warriors lies in the Mausoleum of the Arbiter, located on High Charity." - Ref?
  • The reception section has some long sentences that could be trimmed.

Overall, really well done. Dihydrogen Monoxide 09:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the review, will work on the points raised. James086Talk | Email 10:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to make a ref for "A shrine to these warriors lies in the Mausoleum of the Arbiter, located on High Charity." because it appears in a cutscene of Halo 2 preceding the level "The Storm", not a quote. Would this suffice? James086Talk | Email 13:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Bungie Studios (2004). Halo 2 (in English). Xbox. Microsoft. Level/area: The Storm. 

Halo Wars[edit]

A trailer for Halo Wars shows an Arbiter. Should this be put here? For a more knowledgeable and relaxed Wikipedia- Nemesis646 (talk) 04:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't. Currently we don't know if its actual cutscene footage or promotional, or in what capacity the Arbiter may appear; once we have more information we can add it in under appearances. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 12:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Fine, for the moment I'll leave it as it is. If anything else is released I'll bring the matter back up again. For a more knowledgeable and relaxed Wikipedia- Nemesis646 (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thel 'Vadamee[edit]

I've pulled that section on grounds of original research. There's no actual confirmation within Cole Protocol that Thel becomes the Supreme Commander. Page 349 of the book does specify that he becomes a shipmaster of a crusier within the Fleet of Particular Justice, and while I agree that there is a better then good chance he does become the Supreme Commander, without actual confirmation extrapolating that he becomes the Supreme Commander is original research. If someone wants to contest this, I would request a source specifically citing that he becomes the Supreme Commander. Peptuck (talk) 03:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree; having read the book, while it seems the author intends to imply that The Arbiter is Thel, at this point there is no definite confirmation of this assumption. Further action should be delayed before we find out more.

76.78.115.10 (talk) 22:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I will second that. There is no concrete connection. However, given the name we can positively say that Thel is related to the Spec Ops Leader, Rtas 'Vadumee, who was in that fleet and (as Halo 3 shows) does have experience as a shipmaster. - Fearless Son (talk) 18:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Halopedia seems to disagree: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Thel_%27Vadam#Name_Discussion 92.4.164.217 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC).

Halopedia's opinion is irrelevant, as it isn't a reliable source. Peptuck (talk) 02:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually it's not opinion. It's fact. 'Vadum isn't related to Vadam. Their names are similar, but so are the names Roberts and Robertson. Just because a name is similar does NOT mean they're related. Thel Vadam and the Arbiter in Halo 2/Halo 3 might not be the same people, but it's heavily implied. Why else would they include the fact he was assigned to the Fleet of Particular Justice? And don't just jump to conclusions that they're related just because they have similar names and both are/were at one point a shipmaster. It's in no way implied that Thel Vadam and Rtas 'Vadum are related or the same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.130.227.76 (talk) 21:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


From Halopedia:

Bungie acknowledges him as Thel 'Vadam in the blog: http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid19079

"Ascendant Justice published a new article examining the origins of Thel 'Vadam, better know to most as The Arbiter."

Event though it was decided on Halopedia that it was him, im just showing some new evidence so that we can be completely sure.

The blog post was about this: http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/thel-page-one/ FishType1 21:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

End quote.

That proves the Arbiter in Halos 2 and 3 is named Thel 'Vadam (Thel 'Vadamee before the Great Schism), and again, I'm telling you he's NOT related to Rtas 'Vadum (Rtas 'Vadumee before the Great Schism). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.130.10.41 (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Vadamee has also been recently confirmed by Tobias S. Buckell as well. A French Halo website interviewed him

Links:

[direct interview]

[translation of interview] Dibol (talk) 06:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm iffy about that. For one thing, I've got to rely on the translation, it's not a reliable source, and he doesn't just come out and plainly state it either. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 14:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Other than the translation being on a message board, what is it that makes the information unreliable?Dibol (talk) 22:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
See WP:RS. This site doesn't have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. There's no one vouching for this site. Who's to say they didn't just make it up or mangle Bucknell's comments? --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

¡Stop it OK![edit]

Seriously, if the Arbiter is puted with all these sections of "characters with superhuman strength" etc. then why not the Master Chief?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.12.156.120 (talk) 20:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

First, check the categories that Master Chief (Halo) belong to; some are themselves subcategories of the categories here, and we generally don't list both a category and its subcategory because it's actually redundant. Second, each page stands on its own merits, so if you're removing categories only to conform to another article, which you think should actually have more categories, the correct solution is to discuss it on the talk page of the other article. If, however, you think that the categories should be removed because they don't belong, period, that's another story. — TKD::Talk 20:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Halo Wars Arbiter[edit]

I just encountered this on the Halo Wars main menu on the liitle bar at the bottom with snippets of game information and statistics:

Not many people know that the Arbiter's given birth name is Shirley.

No, seriously. I'm not vandalising the article by putting this in. I've only ever seen it once, but I have seen it.

EDIT: Sorry, that was me. I forgot to login on this window. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I think that is obviously a joke. Peptuck (talk) 12:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I did consider that, but it seemed like such a weird one that I figured it must be true. We don't know much about Elite naming conventions. Maybe Shirley is a male name in their society. *shrugs* Of course, I like a good conspiracy and maybe that's polluting my grasp of the situation. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Images?[edit]

I think perhaps a picture of the Arbiter from Halo 2 and 3 would be better. Maybe a free one could be found somewhere? Mr. Wayne (talk) 19:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Where might we obtain a free image of a copyrighted character in a copyrighted work? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe a drawing or something...if it's possible. Mr. Wayne (talk) 21:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Halo legends arbiter[edit]

Why no mention of him? 69.132.69.87 (talk) 23:45, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source that talks about his appearance, please provide it or add it in yourself. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 22:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

And here also you forgot to write who creater the character, and also who designed[edit]

--Niemti (talk) 15:11, 27 February 2013 (UTC)