Talk:Archimedes

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Nationality[edit]

Re this edit: Archimedes lived at a time when the modern European states did not exist, and this has been discussed before. He is described a mathematician of ancient Greece in Britannica [1] and this is fairly uncontroversial. The description in the lead was changed to ancient Greek because this is more in line with the period when he lived.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Isaac Asimov's eulogy for Archimedes[edit]

Isaac Asimov's praise for Archimedes, "One man, it might be said, once fought an army. Ancient historians tell us that the man was old, over seventy. The army was that of the strongest power in the world —Rome itself. But the old man, a Greek, fought the Roman army to a standstill for nearly three years —and almost won. The old man was Archimedes of Syracuse, the greatest scientist of the ancient world" was reverted. This praise relies on the assumption that Archimedes actually did build devices such as the Heat Ray and the Claw during the Siege of Syracuse, and the reliability of these claims has long been disputed by historians. The ancient Romans built up a mythology around Archimedes long after his death and attributed to him things that he may or may not have done. The only known authentic works of Archimedes are his mathematical writings, and the mechanical devices attributed to him are all apocryphal to various degrees.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:23, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2014[edit]

At the end of this page there is mention of the Oregon Healthcare system, which they call Archimedes. I think inclusion of this note is marketing and shouldn't be on this page. I don't see the need to list all things named after Archimedes, rather the page should be about Archimedes and his work. I request the mention at the end be deleted. 192.149.244.9 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

This was added in 2008. Personally, I've never been convinced that this was notable, and the website says that the name has been changed to "We Can Do Better". Since the name no longer involves Archimedes, it is not worth a name check here, so it has been removed.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2014[edit]

In the "Legacy" section, I suggest that there provide information that in the video game Team Fortress 2, as of June 23, 2011, one of Medic's pets, a dove named after the inventor and astronomer, Archimedes, makes its first appearance in Valve's promotional video, Meet the Medic. [1] 2601:E:100:A00:FCB7:CF31:E79D:A93F (talk) 23:10, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

This is a piece of WP:POPCULTURE trivia, and it has nothing to do with Archimedes and his work. The owl called Archimedes in The Sword in the Stone is not mentioned for the same reason.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
How about this: we can form a new section called "In popular culture" and then add that information in it. Forget the legacy area.

2601:E:100:A00:A0C5:D711:70C0:A765 (talk) 22:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

"In popular culture" sections are often magnets for irrelevant trivia (satirical cartoon of this problem here). Since this is a featured article, it would be best not to encourage people to add every mention of Archimedes that they find, particularly if it has nothing to do with the man or his work.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:42, 19 October 2014 (UTC)