Talk:Arden-Arcade, California

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus(talk) 09:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)



Arden-Arcade, CaliforniaArden Arcade — Arden-Arcade is no longer preferred. In fact, the incorporation work all references the name Arden Arcade, which is how this page should properly be entitled. Thank you. 64.113.104.96 (talk) 00:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Support original proposal to move to Arden Arcade as specified in movereq tag and displayed at WP:RM, per WP:TITLE (I've restored the text to what it was when the request was made): titles should be "only as precise as is necessary" and "shorter titles are often preferred to longer ones.". --Born2cycle (talk) 19:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

WP:NCGN#United States[edit]

Per WP:NCGN#United States, current census-designated places, and most other communities, in the United States such as this one should be in the form of [[Placename, State]] (the "comma convention"). This appears to have never been addressed in the recent RM discussion above; only removing the hyphen between "Arden" and "Arcade". Therefore, I have moved it accordingly. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 09:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, if Arden Arcade does become an incorporated city, the page title shall remain using the "comma convention" per the same WP:NCGN#United States guideline. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Name[edit]

Should be hyphenated, as that is NOW the official census name for a census-designated place; that trumps (as the official name) the purported 2 person consensus above. Moves back to an unhyphenated version will result in 2 articles, with all census data removed from the unhyphenated, because that refers to some amorphous territory not to any Census-designated place, and a separate article for the CDP. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

It would have been preferred if you had begun a discussion instead of disregarding previous consensus. Now you have created two articles, which is of course unnecessary. They both refer to the same thing and to purport that Arden Arcade is not the same as Arden-Arcade is original research. It would appear that the U.S. Census does not determine city/CDP names but the entities themselves. 08OceanBeachS.D. 08:55, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
The census bureau determines the name; we use the official English-language name. Nothing can be simpler. If you contend that Arden Arcade is the same as Arden-Arcade, and the latter is clearly the official name, why do you persist in moving it? I note with irony that the citation on the defeated referendum on cityhood seems to say that had it passed, the incorporated entity also would have borne the dreaded hyphen. That you can be deluded by the pas-de-deux above as a consensus against fact, reason, and policy is surprising because I thought you generally a good judge of such things. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
As you have seen, I have dropped the issue. If the referendum for city hood failed and the CDP still bears the hyphenated name, then that should be the title of the article. However I assumed the issue was similar to that of San Jose, California, on whether or not to have the accent mark as part of the title name. The city was displayed unofficially but commonly as San Jose, though now I believe that is now the official name. Though I can see an argument being made on whether it is the common name and if should be located at the unhyphenated title. Only reliable sources will support that case though. It now seems the above discussion should have been more thorough and involved more editors. As of now I have no opposition to the article being located at the hyphenated title. 08OceanBeachS.D. 09:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Capital City Freeway reference[edit]

The reference in the Transportation heading is nonsense. It reads, "Just to the east of the CDP is the Capital City Freeway..." The freeway runs to the west (and then north) of the CDP. Jonball52 (talk) 15:38, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

History of name[edit]

Very interesting to hear the history of the Arcade part of the name, but I'm still wondering who or what Arden is. When I was at Sac State in the 90's, I loved Arden Fair Mall. YellowAries2010 (talk) 16:19, 28 October 2013 (UTC)