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Musical artist, not actor?[edit]

Is there a reason this article should use {{Infobox musical artist}} and not {{Infobox actor}}? Her credits suggest she's more notable as an actress than a singer/musician. —C.Fred (talk) 04:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Musical artist, not actor?[edit]

Is there a reason this article should use {{Infobox musical artist}} and not {{Infobox actor}}? Her credits suggest she's more notable as an actress than a singer\musician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.247.69.45 (talk) 00:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Article[edit]

Article about Ariana/potential source in Backstage magazine. liquidlucktalk 03:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

she was born a red head also a dummy — Prec unsigned comment added by 69.171.162.2 (talkcontribs) 23:13, 7 July 2012‎ (UTC)

Allstarpics.net?[edit]

Is there anything about http://www.allstarpics.net/pic-gallery/ariana-grande-pics.htm that makes it a reliable source? I don't see any evidence of an editorial policy sufficient to meet the reliability standard. —C.Fred (talk) 03:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

New Picture[edit]

I think the following links would provide a better picture for Ariana Grande. Thank you.

Links:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rawrrzx/4872966153/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50006476@N05/4848428846/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39944889@N02/4732287132/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.148.133 (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

All three of the images are under "all rights reserved" licenses. This makes them non-free content, so they may not be used in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

assertions of notable singer status[edit]

Hi - please present here reliable support that this person is a notable singer, thanks. Has she released a song or an album? Off2riorob (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, she's just released her first single, and she has been on the musical tv show Victorious for a while, and has songs on that soundtrack.Her album is coming out in March, I believe, not absolutely sure on that. Do you want me to provide you with reliable sources? It's a known fact, her first single is entitled "Put Your Hearts Up".. --TaylorLanebore me 18:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Ariana Grande's official ask.fm ![edit]

http://ask.fm/AriGrande — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haiimjules (talkcontribs) 19:37, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure this is official? Colinmotox11 (talk) 21:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to say it appears to be not official, as it's not listed at http://arianagrande.info/site/?page_id=24, the Official Links page of her official site. See the note there: "[T]hese are Ariana’s only social media pages. Anything besides the links listed above are imposters." Further, if it were listed at the official links page, it should not be listed in the Wikipedia article, because it's readily accessible from the official site (see WP:ELOFFICIAL). —C.Fred (talk) 00:29, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

http://ask.fm/arianagrandefromfriday2nextfriday is her official ask.fm. here's her tweet (verified account) linking to her ask.fm https://twitter.com/ArianaGrande/status/271484876874715136 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.47.51 (talk) 05:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

I'm detecting some apparent vandalism here. See that smiley face on the summary? Let's hope we don't get any more of this. --Mr. Nile (talk) 18:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Album contract[edit]

She just recently got signed. Is this too recent and uncertain to add?? TaylorLanebore me —Preceding undated comment added 01:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC).

Has an independent reliable source reported that she's been signed? —C.Fred (talk) 01:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Yah, kinda. All over the place!! try: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3EOAIPg514 - That's a video of Ari talking about it. Youtube videos are acceptable by WP:ABOUTSELF. If you want me to find more, just ask. --TaylorLanebore me 18:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Personal life[edit]

Are her hypoglycemia and shellfish allergry really notable? Why on earth would anyone care about these two trivial tidbits? 110.174.233.75 (talk) 12:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the shellfish allergy is notable at all. The hypoglycemia could be, if she's done any public outreach about the condition. In the absence of that, I agree that the information is awfully trivial, and I'm boldly removing both. —C.Fred (talk) 13:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I think shellfish possibly not but the hypoglycemia definetly. Colinmotox11 (talk) 18:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

No one cares — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.106.9 (talk) 04:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 February 2012[edit]

Please change the link for "Put Your Hearts Up". Instead of having it to redirect to Ariana Grande, have it go to the article for the song itself. Here's the link for the page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Put_Your_Hearts_Up_%28song%29

XiaolinShowdown21 (talk) 23:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Put Your Hearts Up, the song should not have an article. Accordingly, Put Your Hearts Up (song) has also been turned into a redirect to this article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Surname[edit]

Wikipedia editors of course will never accept this as proof

http://victorious.wikia.com/wiki/File:IMG_1436.PNG

and this

http://twitpic.com/8fcs90

69.137.229.200 (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

It's also more directly in her Twitter profile, at http://twitter.com/#!/ArianaGrande/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F8fcs90. The Twitter account is verified. Do we need to render that as her full/birth name? —C.Fred (talk) 19:35, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The intresting thing about her surname is that is originates from the Greek word for butter: The word butter derives (via Germanic languages) from the Latin butyrum,[2] which is the latinisation of the Greek βούτυρον (bouturon).[3][4] This may have been a construction meaning "cow-cheese", from βοῦς (bous), "ox, cow"[5] + τυρός (turos), "cheese",[6] but perhaps this is a false etymology of a Scythian word.[7] Nevertheless, the earliest attested form of the second stem, turos ("cheese"), is the Mycenaean Greek tu-ro, written in Linear B syllabic script.[8] The root word persists in the name butyric acid, a compound found in rancid butter and dairy products such as Parmesan cheese. And her first name Ariana has similarities to the ancient Greek name Andreas/Andriana. Andriana meaning and name origin

Andriana \a-ndria-

na, an(d)-riana\ as a girl's name is a variant of Andrea (Greek), and the meaning of Andriana is "manly, virile". The baby name Andriana sounds like Andrina, Andrianna and Andreana. Other similar baby names are Adriana and Audriana. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.137.165.61 (talk) 06:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

If IMDB is unreliable[edit]

Why use it an an external link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.229.200 (talk) 03:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Because it has limited reliability and is good as a general source and pointer to other information. —C.Fred (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Much like Wikipedia itself. --Buddy13 (talk) 02:51, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Charts[edit]

According to her official website, "her first single, “Put Your Hearts Up,” which debuted at NUMBER 24 on the pop charts" see http://www.arianagrande.info/about.php

Any verification? To enter in this entry?

69.137.229.200 (talk) 20:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

A source to the chart would suffice, but not Grande's website. —C.Fred (talk) 01:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protection[edit]

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MUSIC[edit]

hey guys im here. why is no one writing something about her music? she released her single "Put Your Hearts Up" on Feb. 14th, 2012. And she sings 2 more songs from her upcoming album. the songs are called "Honeymoon Avenue" and "Pink Champagne". so please check that out and write it to her site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.38.56 (talk) 14:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Full name..[edit]

Her full name is Ariana Joan Grande-Butera. Why isn't her middle name up there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodmorningramona (talkcontribs) 08:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

DONE BellaFan262 (talk) 15:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Undone: We have a reliable source for the full last name, but not for the middle name. —C.Fred (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

She does not have a middle name at all. Source: https://twitter.com/ArianaGrande/status/199002345944788993 --Arcachnar (talk) 19:23, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Spelling error[edit]

Her last name is spelled "Grand" in the line about her being featured in Dream magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.152.110 (talk) 05:14, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. —C.Fred (talk) 01:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

She doesn't have a middle name, her full name is Ariana Grande-Butera. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AriG DaniM (talkcontribs) 02:57, 8 October 2012‎ (UTC)

She doesn't have a verified middle name, at least. —C.Fred (talk) 03:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


There is a spelling error in the fifth paragraph of the Artistry section: Grande described Imogen Heap has being one of her major influences;
Learve (talk) 11:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. —C.Fred (talk) 17:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The full name[edit]

"Grande" means Big in spanish, is a common latin last name, and "Ariana" is also a common name in latin america. She have some Latino descent, and the other half italian.--Vvven (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

i gotta say, between "grande", the full name being 2-part, coming from florida, and her general HUE, i assumed she was full latina. i too am skeptical abt "full italian", but if that's what she says that's what she says. unless you've got a source to the contrary, that's the end of that. 209.172.25.144 (talk) 00:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 July 2012[edit]

Ariana Grande is now dating the guitarist/singer, Micheal cliiford, from the band (5 seconds of summer)

115.70.68.86 (talk) 05:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Can't be added unless you provide a reliable source.—Kww(talk) 06:28, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


She is Hypoglycemic.[edit]

I read on IMDb in the Trivia section that Ariana is Hypoglycemic.

Worth adding?--BellaFan262 (talk) 09:19, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Probably not. We'd need a reliable source to add it anyway; IMDB is not reliable. —C.Fred (talk) 03:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

ok.I didn't know that IMDb is unreliable but if it is it is if it's not it's not.--BellaFan262 (talk) 09:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

She IS Hypoglycemic Sources: http://www.celebrityhealthfitness.com/8049/ariana-grande-reveals-suffers-hypoglycemia-eating-disorders/ and http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-01-27/%E2%80%98victorious%E2%80%99-cast-talks-%E2%80%98breakfast-club%E2%80%99-homage-and-spill-detention-stories/ --Arcachnar (talk) 19:14, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 December 2012[edit]

i would like to edit ariana grande wikipedia because some info is wrong and i can correct it

thank you Ayojr (talk) 20:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. We can't correct it if we don't know what's wrong and what sources support the change. —C.Fred (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Album Name.[edit]

On her verified twitter she put a link to her official ask.fm which confirmed her soon to be released album name "Daydreamin'" could you put that in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meaganmadness96 (talkcontribs) 06:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't find any tweets that mention ask.fm or the album. You'll need to provide a specific link so we can verify it. —C.Fred (talk) 02:22, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Ask.fm tweet: https://twitter.com/ArianaGrande/status/271484876874715136
Album name proof: http://ask.fm/arianagrandefromfriday2nextfriday/answer/17067179192
 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meaganmadness96 (talkcontribs) 19:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 January 2013[edit]

Please let me edit this please I'm desperate Ike's up121356$8 (talk) 00:55, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

You have to provide a specific statement of what you want changed.—Kww(talk) 01:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Pescetarian[edit]

I thought that Ariana was a pescetarian. As of recently, this wasn't mentioned under the categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.74.150 (talk) 19:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Since it is not in the article proper (with good references) it can't be in the category list. See WP:BLPCAT for more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 February 2013[edit]

My request would be to update the covers information. She has recently done some covers, including Emotions by Mariah Carey and Just For NOw by Imogean Heap. Cassie2600 (talk) 22:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 00:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Filmography[edit]

I think it should say (60 episodes) next to Victorious cause I see that next to shows that other actors are in sometimes so like "Victorious (60 episodes)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.47.51 (talk) 05:16, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Not for an actor with a lead role who is presumed to be in all episodes. Shown in main credits. Episode count is only for recurring actors in a series. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request on 28 February 2013[edit]

'Ariana Grande also performs' needs changing to performed, as it happened a while ago.

Yes check.svg Done Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

New Single.[edit]

It says that the next single off her album is "Do You Love Me?" but that has changed now it's "The Way". She announced it on her verified twitter account. Source: https://twitter.com/ArianaGrande/status/309090129140649985 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meaganmadness96 (talkcontribs) 23:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 March 2013[edit]

Change the date of Put Your Hearts Up in the Singles section to 2012 (instead of 2011) because 2012 is when it was actually released as a single.

Change the spelling of "Gimmie Some Lovin" in the Covers section to "Gimme Some Lovin" because that is the proper spelling according to the article on the original version of the song.

Add "Sweet Life," originally by Frank Ocean, to the Covers section because she's covered that song before.

Also add "Only Girl (in the World)," originally by Rihanna, to the Covers section because she has covered that song before.

Change the spelling of "Beiber" to "Bieber" in the Covers section because "Beiber" is a misspelling. Skyesweetnam4ever (talk) 04:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

  1. Date of "Put Your Hearts Up" changed per its article.
  2. "Gimme Some Lovin' spelling corrected per its article and linked.
  3. "Sweet Life" not added—no source.
  4. "Only Girl" not added—no source.
  5. Bieber's name corrected.
For the two other covers, we need reliable sources that she done the covers, just like we have for the other covers. —C.Fred (talk) 22:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Ariana's relationship status[edit]

Ariana has got back together with Jai since their reported break-up a while ago. She addresses this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqYxuI2V2tQ when she says "we broke up for 4 minutes" — Preceding unsigned comment added by RachelKatWalsh (talkcontribs) 13:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request: Spelling and link to Sky Blu[edit]

The article refers to her work with "Sky Blue" from the band LMFAO, but Redfoo and Sky Blu are the only members of LMFAO, so I'm sure the correct spelling is Sky Blu, and making a link to SkyBlu would clear that up.

Discography of Ariana Grande[edit]

Split into a new article. There is already an article created for it.--150.216.134.251 (talk) 08:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't think a split is needed for this amount of content. Also article should be called Ariana Grande discography if that content is split out. See also process of doing this at WP:PROSPLIT and don't forget the required-by-wiki-licence attributions. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I feel that this article should be split because of the number of covers that she has done. most of them are not on the page, and should be added. Plus she has confirmed that she will be releasing another single, and her album by September of 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arianator2013 (talkcontribs) 03:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I say wait till the album is out. Arre 12:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Victorious[edit]

Ariana Grande, known as Cat Valentine was in a show named Victorious. Everyone enjoyed it. The last episode shown was Crazy Ponnie until further notice. There are now more questions about what are they working on now. Ariana Grande enjoyed the show and found lots of new people to get along with. All the red hair was a great opportunity and she had lots of support. There were bloopers, funniness, and lots more. Will it end? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifitops123 (talkcontribs) 18:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 June 2013[edit]

Ariana Grande has recently performed on The Ellen DeGeneres Show and it is not currently not listed in her Filmography. I would like her appearance on that show to be listed in her Filmography. J Mendie (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's practical to list every guest appearance she makes in her filmography section. —C.Fred (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Sources & narrative[edit]

  • Although Twitter is not excluded from the list of reliable sources that can be used in a biography of a living person, an article should NOT be built on information from the source so replacing the majority of that material is preferable.
  • When a person has moved away from a town prior to having graduated from high school (such as with Grande), saying they were born & raised there can be misleading.
  • The format of this biography doesn't suit the sources - there isn't reliable source information on: Grande's vocal range, the award for her work on Broadway, her involvement with the South African charity, readings at other shows. Grande's Twitter is NOT enough source for these points since each could be challenged.
  • Since an article can always grow, biographies of living people are best written to the actual RS material available in the moment instead of padded out with possible data.

EBY (talk) 11:14, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation -- and I agree. Now to explain my last edit: Her "Acting career" is currently too short to have subsections. --Musdan77 (talk) 19:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 July 2013[edit]

In the summary of what Ariana has accomplished so far, there is a sentence that begins with "Grande made he acting debut in 2008" and the "he" in that sentence should be changed to "her". LaurenElaine13 (talk) 05:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Done RudolfRed (talk) 07:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request: Change of relationship status[edit]

Change of relationship status to single :

As stated here, http://www.thehothits.com/news/38025/janoskian-jai-brooks-and-ariana-grande-have-broken-up they broke up 5 months ago, which should be edited.

Not done: Without even going into whether thehothits.com is a reliable source, it's ambiguous. It says they broke up and then links to an article from the same time period saying they've reunited. —C.Fred (talk) 18:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Album page is back[edit]

Alert to editors: after repeated creations and falling back to redirects at Yours, Truly (Ariana Grande album), somebody created Yours Truly (Ariana Grande album) this morning. There are enough sources that I'm not dropping it back to a redirect; however, I did apply a notability template after I completed a history merge. —C.Fred (talk) 14:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 August 2013[edit]

Ariana is the youngest person to do fallseto ever and shes the best singer in the entire world and her havorite animal is a girraffe 2Olivia16 (talk) 02:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

  • X mark.svg Not done - for fairly obvious reasons. Stop your disruptive editing or you will be blocked. Stalwart111 02:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Musical style and voice[edit]

Most of the info on her voice isn't backed up by reliable sources -- just some blog. I think this needs to be taken care of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethlee s (talkcontribs) 05:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request October 1st 2013[edit]

" Grande played the character Cat Valentine, who is sweet, naive, bubbly and almost always happy. She has a very short attention span, and has bright red hair dyed to resemble her favorite snack, a red velvet cupcake. Despite her ditziness, she is very intelligent and empathetic in the Nickelodeon television show Victorious, which premiered in March 2010."

Is it Grande that is sweet, naive, bubbly, almost always happy, lacking of attention span, bright red hair like her favorite snack, and a red velvet cupcake? No, it's a character she played. Unnecessary information, should be shortened or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkyboy128 (talkcontribs) 12:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Done Shortened that sentence and deleted the one after it for better flow. —C.Fred (talk) 16:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Issues and edit requests[edit]

Why is this article locked? Why not flagged edits? The section above "Semi protected" does not make it clear why the article is locked.

Edit requests 1: The personal life section says "confirmed on twitter" (sic). This happens all the time but there is absolutely no need to pedantically write out that she said it on Twitter (also should have been capitlized) it is not any more special than any other source. (Even with a Twitter junkie like Ashton Kutcher it is more than enough to say "announced" and then to provide a reference/citation with the link.)

Edit requests 2: Overcomplicated phrasing "Victorious's current season (Season 3, which was split to a fourth season) will be the last." could be significantly shortened and simplified to say something like ~ the show Victorious will be ending ... and Grande would return in a new show Sam & Cat. (Again, there is no need to spell out that it was announced on a particular press tour, so long as that information is included in the references.) The relevant information is old show ending, new spin-off starting.

I'd have done these edits myself if the article was set to allow flagged edits. -- 93.107.207.225 (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I've made some edits. Now, if you would hover over the lock or look at the history page you'd see that the reason for protection is because of vandalism. Though, I'm not sure why it's for a whole year. You could talk to the admin who did it. But, you know, if you just registered, it wouldn't matter that it was locked. --Musdan77 (talk) 06:10, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Way too much abuse of editing privilege by anon IP users, due to additions of unsourced content and general BLP vandalism. If you are wondering why it is protected for a whole year, just see this. STATic message me! 06:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, those edits improve things. Thanks for the information about the lock, that is still pretty vague though, so I'm glad you gave the extra example.

I've issues with the ways Wikipedia works, or more to the point fails to work. I know it seems like 'just register' is an answer, but WIkipedia claims to be open (at least it used to) and Jimmy Wales claims to want more people to participate. Similarly flagged edits strike a better balance than locking articles and encourage wider participation and curtailing the most obvious vandalism. (but there are a whole lot of edits that do not show much WP:GOODFAITH and fail to even follow the most basic and WP:SIMPLE rules and at least make the effort to provide an edit summary.) -- 147.252.95.55 (talk) 15:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Since you obviously want to helpfully contribute I think the best thing to do would be to register, it comes with alot of perks and requires basically no personal information. This page used to have pending changes, but unsurprisingly too many people took that for granted and the page continued to be vandalized daily. Eventually it becomes too tedious for the reviewers, and semi-protection becomes the better option. STATic message me! 17:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I do not like or appreciate the clique culture of wikipedia, or the deletionist culture, or the Wiki Lawyer (unhelpful rule expert) culture. Registering only plays into the reputation game instead of forcing editors to think, and to follow the fair but WP:SIMPLE rules and to make more effort, to allow flagged edits and take the time to review, rather than blocking editors. I've been on both sides. I stay outside because Wikipedia needs to improve but has not failed or been replaced yet. -- 109.79.98.70 (talk) 01:31, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 October 2013[edit]

<-- change the main picture of Ariana Grande to an up to date picture -->

Emilysipple (talk) 22:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Not done: You'll need to be specific about which picture you want to use, and it must be under a free license. It can't be just any picture found on the internet. —C.Fred (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Ariana s cousin[edit]

Ariana has a cousin in ohio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna sharanevych (talkcontribs) 20:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Extended family is outside the scope of the article, especially non-notable family members. —C.Fred (talk) 20:26, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Correct use of commas[edit]

Under the Philanthropy section:

1. "co-founded the youth singing group, Kids Who Care" should read "co-founded the youth singing group Kids Who Care". 2. "as a member of the charitable organization, Broadway in South Africa" should read "as a member of the charitable organization Broadway in South Africa". 2602:30A:C0B3:B0C0:A1C9:538:EF78:3623 (talk) 05:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. In the first case, I've re-ordered the sentence to remove the dangler that made it read as if South Florida performed for charitable fund-raising events. --Stfg (talk) 10:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Question/Edit request[edit]

I think this list should be also added to the "Discography" section:

Christmas Wishes (EP) (2013)
TBA (2014)[1]

--GleekRicky98a (talk) 07:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

References
I think the '14 release should be omitted until it has a title. The general guideline is that albums don't go on the discography until they have a title and a release date.
As for the EP, in many cases, discography lists within articles are kept to full albums only; EPs are excluded. In any case, we need a reliable source or two for the EP before it can be included anywhere in the article (discography section or prose), especially since there seems to be some dispute over the title (Christmas Wishes v. Christmas Kisses). —C.Fred (talk) 13:52, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Ariana Grande is Trending in Twitter, American Music Awards 2013[edit]

This is interesting, please read this and write it: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Thanks. Connie (A.K) (talk) 03:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

This is also relevant [5] [6] about her performance in 87th Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. And this [7] about her singles christmas. Is relevant write it. Sorry for my emglish. Thanks. Connie (A.K) (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

New Pictures[edit]

I think this wikipedia article for Ariana Grande should have more recent pictures. These pictures on here were from a few years and should be updated. They should be changed to some of these: http://cdn.thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ariana-grande-vma.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkelseyeelizabeth96 (talkcontribs) 04:20, 15 December 2013‎ (UTC)

Not done: Images in biographies can only be free images. That Grape Juice does not provide attribution for their images, so there's no way to determine who holds rights to the image and whether we can use them. On the off chance that That Grape Juice held the rights, we can't use the image, because they have an all-rights-reserved license on their content. —C.Fred (talk) 22:44, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Update 12/15/2013 billboard social 50[edit]

Ariana Grande, as of 3:26 12/15/13, is number two in the Billboard social 50. This should be updated, on her wikipedia page it says she is at number 3. Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). http://www.billboard.com/charts/social-50 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkelseyeelizabeth96 (talkcontribs) 20:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Done Updated to show her at #2. Wording will need tweaked at such time as she falls in the rankings to note she peaked at #2 (unless she makes it to #1). —C.Fred (talk) 22:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

New Pictures needed[edit]

I'm sorry to say this again but new and updated pictures are needed on this site for her, those pictures are very old and outdated. I do not know exactly what sites are the "free-licensed" ones or whatever but they should be updated for relevance. There is a picture of her in 2010 in the section about her album that came out in September 2013 that should not be there. The main picture of her is also from 2011, it is almost 2014, first of all the picture is outdated and her hair has not been red for a while now. I hope someone can find better pictures soon please, thank you. Kkelseyeelizabeth96 (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree that the pictures are starting to get out of date. However, part of the reason we're using old images is that nobody has found suitable (that is, freely-licensed) images that are more recent. —C.Fred (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2014[edit]

Ariana Grande's does not have a middle name, she just simply likes the name Joan.(her mothers name) AmberEidson (talk) 01:17, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Already in article with references. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:32, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Text[edit]

should be left in the previous version before changes another user. The now is the right. Thanks. --Connie (A.K) (talk) 00:29, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit conflict in 2013–present section: January 14, 2014[edit]

I figured as an edit conflict is occurring it would be best to attempt to resolve it here on the talk page by reaching a consensus on which edit is preferred for the article: my proposed edit or La Avatar Korra's proposed edit.

I personally believe that my edit summarises the information effectively without detracting anything from the article. I found that previous edit read like a list, eg. "On December 18, Grande performed X at X. On December 23, Grande performed X at X." etc etc, and I moved some of the information around so that it was in chronological order. I kept the majority of the content, removing only a few links which I felt referenced slightly trivial, overly specific information for the Ariana Grande biography as a whole, and may be better suited to the Yours Truly article.

Additionally, the edit as proposed by La Avatar Korra adds over 3700 bytes to the page, without contributing any significant change/information (in my opinion). Furthermore, this edit has been reverted previously by users SamanthaPuckettIndo [8] and STATicVapor [9] suggesting a consensus against this version.

Opinions would be appreciated. DavidMichaelScotttalk 01:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


No offense meant to anyone, but I believe the edit version by Davidmichaelscott is the most appropriate for this Ariana Grande page.

Carriearchdale (talk) 01:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes DavidMichaelScott's version is definitely the best version in my book. STATic message me! 01:24, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I think David, your version is ok but see your changes, your version is almost identical to the version that was already in the article, however, if there are certain parts that are acceptable, for example, what you mention: on december .... x. x .. . There are parts that can be salvaged. On the other hand, in the chronological order your version is wrong, write about her new album September 12, 2013 after writing her presentations in December 2013. Connie (A.K) (talk) 01:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the feedback. If it is so identical I don't understand why it is necessary to consistently revert the changes? The new album part was placed after December 2013 as the performances occurred in 2013 but the new album is not due until later this year. DavidMichaelScotttalk 01:47, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

See, she talk about her second album on september, then, her performances, december 2013. Its the chronology right, sorry for my english guys. Connie (A.K) (talk) 01:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Add:I appreciate the fact that you compose better, but if you correct the chronological order would be better. Sorry for my english.

Okay, well I'll revert it back for now and edit the chronology further so it works better. Let me know what you think. DavidMichaelScotttalk 02:10, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, It's okay. :) Thanks by fix Davidmichaelscott. Connie (A.K) (talk) 05:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Social 50[edit]

why delete it?, has specialized references on the subject. All articles and this article have specialized references on the subject, that is reliable references. On the other hand, there are other items that have that data. And finally, the notability is the count is based on the worldwide popularity of the artist in such sites. DavidMichaelScott was consensus for change. The notability is based on how important it can be that information, in this case, it is for an artist. The billboard 50 places the currently popular artists, an important item for any artist. Moreover, the Billboard 50 is in others artist's article. So, you asked a source of third parties, that's what was done: third source, source specializing in theme / nominations / minor. Stop edit warring. Connie (A.K) (talk) 04:05, 17 January 2014 (UTC) PS:Sorry for the english.

Social networking does not indicate the most popular artists in the world, just the most popular artists in about 6-10th grade. I never asked for more references from Billboard, I asked that you provide reliable third party sources that indicate that her charting on said chart, is notable to mention in her encyclopedia article. Do not make up other editors mind for them, when they have yet to comment, and do not make you own origional research for how important charts are. As for "the Billboard 50 is in others artist's article." I give you WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. STATic message me! 07:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
User Static, Billboard 50 located the artist worlwide popular in this moments on social networkings, twitter, and others. twitter is not only in United Kingdom, or not different of other countries. You're looking for excuses to withdraw such data that has specialized references on the subject, that it is verifiable. On other artist's articles such as Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, and more articles the Billboard 50 is there... including, on the article Austin Mahone and more. The other user, David made consensues for the change, and you said: Yes DavidMichaelScott's version is definitely the best version in my book. Sooo.... do you read or not read the differences.?? I think you don't read, because not you realize that above the chronological order was incorrect. Connie (A.K) (talk) 15:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC) PS: sorry for the English
I do not think you understand how the chart works. Also notice articles like Eminem, Justin Timberlake and Drake, mainstays on that chart, and no mention of it. And Cyrus' and Gomez's articles do not mention the chart at all in prose. Not looking for excuses, actually having logic, as the information is not notable, significant or informative to anyone reading it. That was after he cut all your excess "image" junk, and I did not know the content was there. If anyone "don't read"... its you. Also quit with your conspiracy theories on my talk page, it has gotten quite annoying, but for the record I do enjoy her music, so I am not looking to remove content, it is just not important, and you have yet to prove me wrong. STATic message me! 18:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
always you react so authoritatively, very aggressive. You say: [...] and I did not know the content was there, so why did you say?: Yes DavidMichaelScott's version is definitely the best version in my book, ... if you don't read that.
You say: but for the record I do enjoy her music, you say that, does not mean it is 100% truth, on the other hand, there is no need for you to say. Try to be calm please. There is a third source that is not billboard. Finally, your behavior led to believe that you have a negative characteristic to this article and its derivatives, as only you do to reverse, and monitor, but you not help to extend.
Billboard 50 ranking places the popular artists in the day. For a reference to be reliable, it must have been written by an expert. The text has three sources, two of billboard and the other source is outside. Regards. Connie (A.K) (talk) 22:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
If anyone needs to calm down, it really is you. On top of that, the new source you added is unreliable, see WP:IRS to understand what reliable sources are. You really make zero sense to be honest. I wish someone that speaks English would comment on here. You already have made numerous false statements, I am not surprised you continue to try to twist my words. STATic message me! 00:59, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
You said:You already have made numerous false statements, I am not surprised you continue to try to twist my words... Now You are defaming, it is a pity That you can not talk to you, you are very disrespectful towards me. I don't write lies, and I don't twisting your words, I quote your comments and I wondering you. Don't lie please.
Billboard 50 ranks the artist populars in social networkings, about the third source, i think not is neccessary, because it already has reliable references. The before sources are sufficient, are reliable and specialize in the theme. WP:RS. Regards. Connie (A.K) (talk) 05:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)PS: Other sources, here & here.

I have to say that personally I don't think it should be included.. Firstly, of the five sources you've cited – 1234 & 5 – only three are secondary sources – 12 & 3 – and of those three, only one actually states that she peaked at #2 (what is being stated in the article) – 1. This supports the idea of this not meeting WP:SIGCOV. I contribute to a few articles on artists and none of them really mention or reference the Social 50 because as a chart it's not very significant. She could be #2 or higher multiple times over the next year, that's the nature of the chart; are we going to mention it every time it happens? It just seems a little redundant. Other charts like the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 are worth mentioning because they gain significant coverage, are used across the industry and rarely see the same up & down movements as the Social 50. Just my two cents. DavidMichaelScotttalk 00:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Exactly, thanks for that and of the three secondary source, none are reliable sources. As Davidmichaelscott said, the chart is not very significant and she will be a mainstay on the chart throughout the year, just as pop acts such as Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake and Justin Beiber are. It adds nothing to the article. Also La Avatar, you are the only being disrespectful, you can "quote" comments all you want, but when you make your on syntheses and totally change the meaning of what I said. STATic message me! 01:10, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

New Quote[edit]

Grande had recently commented that she wished to have the confidence of Miley Cyrus to get naked. Perhaps this could be added. Reference: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a547157/ariana-grande-on-miley-cyrus-i-wish-i-had-confidence-to-get-naked.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.187.9.127 (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

she has always been everyone's favorite and she made a song with big sean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.83.205 (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Influences: Madonna[edit]

Ariana recently said that pop icon Madonna is her 'idol' and she 'loves how she stands up for what she believes in and surprises people'

From her V magazine interview:

On her love for Madonna: “She is my idol as far as attitude. I just love how she stands up for what she believes in and surprises people by not eff-ing up when they want her to so badly. Madonna has always surprised people and she has always had her head on straight. Even when she pretends not to. When she shocks people and everything, there is always a method behind it.”

reference: (blacklisted source)

Influences: Madonna[edit]

Ariana recently said that pop icon Madonna is her 'idol' and she 'loves how she stands up for what she believes in and surprises people'

From her V magazine interview:

On her love for Madonna: “She is my idol as far as attitude. I just love how she stands up for what she believes in and surprises people by not eff-ing up when they want her to so badly. Madonna has always surprised people and she has always had her head on straight. Even when she pretends not to. When she shocks people and everything, there is always a method behind it.”

reference: (blacklisted source)

Yes check.svg Done. Thanks. Connie (A.K) (talk) 22:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

size of infobox picture[edit]

Don't know if it's just my problem, but the infobox picture is in full size, meaning it is as wide as the whole screen. When not scrolled down, I see "Ariana Grande" twice (article title and infobox title), and her head just above her eyes. Browser is not the issue here. 85.217.15.230 (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Minor grammar issue[edit]

In the Personal Life section the sentence "In late January 2014, Grande confirmed in a radio interview that her and Sykes had decided to end their approximately five month long relationship, but insisted that they remain close friends" should be altered to read "....in a radio interview that she and Sykes had...". 173.54.23.254 (talk) 14:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)SpeedVX

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2014[edit]

Bubblegum123451019 (talk) 05:35, 5 April 2014 (UTC) Ariana Grande is a natural brown

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 06:46, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2014[edit]

Sam and Cat is ending at the end of this year and I would like you to change '2013-present' to '2013-14'. 109.149.217.121 (talk) 12:48, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --ElHef (Meep?) 14:26, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2014[edit]

Please add this to the article "On April 27th, 2014, Ariana Grande released the first single of her sophomore album.[1] The track, titled ″Problem″ and featuring rapper Iggy Azalea[2], broke "iTunes Store" history when it debuted. It took 37 minutes to climb to the top of the iTunes charts [3]. because I believe it should be added, the record broke history. KaitlynGibbons96 (talk) 19:56, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

References
  • Do we have a usable source? The justjaredjr website is spam-blacklisted, which makes it impractical, at best, to use as a source. Grande's own Twitter shouldn't be used for the iTunes charts item. —C.Fred (talk) 20:14, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 01:03, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2014[edit]

Change "She has since converted to Kabbalah" to "She has since begun practicing Kabbalah" or She has since begun studying Kabbalah" or "She has since begun following Kabbalah's teachings." The wikipedia page to which Kabbalah links itself states that "While it is heavily used by some denominations, it is not a religious denomination in itself." As it is not a denomination, one cannot "convert" to Kabbalah. 205.196.204.4 (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done I have changed it to "She has since started following Kabbalah's teachings". I don't think this is a very important change, so I implemented it per WP:BOLD. If another editor disagrees with the change, feel free to undo and leave a message here explaining why. Best, Mz7 (talk) 21:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Music![edit]

Ariana just released her hit single 'Problem' on April 26 2014! She is creating a new album and it will be awesome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tia456 (talkcontribs) 19:28, 8 May 2014‎ (UTC)

Do you have a source for the release date? Per sources in the article, it premiered on April 27. —C.Fred (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2014[edit]

c — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.54.210 (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

To request an edit, you'll need to be specific about what you want changed. —C.Fred (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2014[edit]

"...one twenty episode..." should be: one twenty-episode 70.231.135.246 (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Acalycine(talk/contribs) 05:58, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2014[edit]

Ariana also played lacross in high school for 3 years. Brockrenner (talk) 04:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 04:28, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Frankie Grande[edit]

It's time for Frankie to have his own article: He started his professional career in the National Tour of Dora the Explorer Live!. He then appeared in Mamma Mia! on Broadway, held the title of Mr. Broadway 2007, produced Jude Law's Hamlet on Broadway (and vehicles for David Hyde Pierce and Jim Belushi), founded the non-profit arts empowerment organization Broadway in South Africa, toured with Justin Bieber and his sister (as a dancer), and had his own one-man show in New York. He also has an expanding social media presence. See this, for example. He is currently appearing on the TV show Big Brother. Here is more Biographical info on him and here is his Big Brother bio video. Would any Ariana or pop culture fans be willing to start an article about him? Happy editing, everyone. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Inheritance[edit]

I read somewhere that she stands to inherit a fortune. I don't know if this is true or just a rumour.Twa..tttz. (talk) 20:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Personal Life[edit]

Someone should add that she dated The Wanted's Nathan Sykes from September to December 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.168.177 (talk) 17:43, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2014[edit]

68.34.168.177 (talk) 17:49, 2 August 2014 (UTC) add to her personal life section that she dated The Wanted's Nathan Sykes from September to December of 2013

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tutelary (talk) 17:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Correction[edit]

Despite being a ratings success for the network, the series was canceled on July 13, 2014 due to Grande's rising musical career and behind-the-cenes conflict. The finale aired on July 17.[28]

Scenes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankal065 (talkcontribs) 20:07, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Three singles simultaneously??[edit]

You guys need to put in the fact that Ariana Grande has 3 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 top ten on August 20th, 2014, with Problem, Break Free, and Bang Bang. You need to note that Ariana Grande is the 2nd lead female artist to have 3 singles in the top ten since Adele and also she is the first female artist to have 3 singles in the top 6 simultaneously on the Billboard Digital Songs charts and the 2nd overall since Michael Jackson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.180.179.25 (talk) 06:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)