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[edit] Official website

Much of the text here is taken from the official website at http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/visitor_information/anc_facts.html

As a work of the U.S. Federal Government, this should be a public domain resource. The Anome

[edit] September 11 effect

"The fact that 189 of the victims were Americans made the bombing the worst act of pre-9/11 terrorist violence."

does this mean that if 189 of the victims were NOT americans (and does this include canadians, mexicans, brazilians, argentinians), it would not have been the worst act of pre-9/11 terrorist violence?

I understand your concern, but I think it was meant to refer to the worst pre-9/11 attack against americans (as in US citizens, which is another debate). I've tried to clarify it. Ddye 20:40, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of 9/11, is there any memorial to the New York City or Pa. victims there or any victims buried there? 66.31.78.14 (talk) 18:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] interred / buried

Arlington is running out of space, and it has now become more difficult to get oneself actually buried at ANC. Instead, the gov't is focusing on cremated remains and has built large columbariums to that effect. As such, I have changed two uses of the word "buried" to "interred" (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=interred), and one incorrect use of the word "interned" (the latter meaning "to confine"). I think in a few other cases, it could be changed, but I'll leave that to somebody more familiar with the article. Avriette 16:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] history

Its amazing to me there isn't a history section here, the part about taking Lee's estate to make it a cemetary for the dead is part of american lore. I might write it later on, but don't have time now. 12.9.33.203 19:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Much of that history is covered under the Arlington House article. 66.31.78.14 (talk) 18:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic clean-up

I've cleaned up the article layout by limiting the number of image sizes to only 2; locating most images on the right; moved images closer to the text describing them. I've alphabetized the random list of notable civilian burials, and rewritten some of the captions to give more background. CApitol3 15:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I uploaded 3 images today and have several more available that I may upload in the future: (1), (2), (3). Cheers! --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 02:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amphitheater

It says in the article that the Arlington Memorial Amphitheater is modeled on Greek and Roman amphitheaters, however amphitheaters are strictly part of Roman architecture. I shall remove the "Greek" part. Albo NL 19:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

My rather young Dutch (which is also my own mother tongue, since I live near Antwerp) friend, the Greek also had them already though. Extremely sexy 21:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
An amphitheater is a "fighting arena", and only known among Romans. The Greek played box, and this game was often performed in open fields (but never in an amphitheater, I'm sure). There were no amphitheaters in "Greece". The theater you must be talking about is the theatre, wich is a place for actors (only male by the way) to partake in dramas. This type of theater was, among other cultural features, directly adopted (from the Greeks) into common Roman life. Albo NL 21:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I always learnt about "Greek amphitheaters" at school, and I followed Greek and Latin at secondary school, hence. Extremely sexy 21:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Tu quoque, Bartus?:P You must know that thát is no reasoning. Ik houd voet bij stuk. Uw Nederlandse vriend 18:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
LOL, but still no proof for this. Extremely sexy 18:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
My rather Flemish friend, please check http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Bart_Versieck. Albo NL 20:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Goed: dan zal ik daar even kijken. Extremely sexy 22:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] significant interments

Orde Wingate (a British officer) is buried at Arlington because his remains could not be seperated from those of the (American) crew of the aircraft which was carrying him when it crashed. Is this worth mentioning as significant? Or are there several cases like it? 82.13.83.244 14:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction in the "Tomb of Unknowns" section

The 1st paragraph states that it has never been officially named. But then the 3rd paragraph states: It was initially named the "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier." Other unknown servicemen were later buried there, and the name became "Tomb of the Unknowns." Obviously there is something awry here. Possibly a distinction is being made between government and popular labels, but if it is it's not well-stated. The first paragraph is confirmed by Arlington's official website at http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/visitor_information/tomb_of_the_unknowns.html . 69.227.126.47 07:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should change it to read It was initially known as the "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier." Other unknown servicemen were later buried there, and is now known as the "Tomb of the Unknowns." How does that sound? Lord Bodak 13:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Fixed, I think. Remove the contradiction tag if you think so. Zchris87v 02:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Captain America

I have the news that Captain America is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. An issue of his funeral, called Fallen Son, will be released the day after the 4th of July. To find out more, click on this link: Captain America to be buried at Arlington. Man, it has taken a few months to come up with a burial scene not unlike the Anna Nicole Smith case, right? --Angeldeb82 22:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Soldiers?

Were Southern Soldiers from the Civil War Buried in Arlington Cemetary as well? -82riceballs

That is mentioned near the end of the notable sites section; look for "Confederate Memorial". (SEWilco 20:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC))

[edit] exception to Arlington policy

Notable, I should think: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april082008/ww1_vet_4-8-08.php — pd_THOR | =/\= | 01:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a notable link. --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 03:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Add it! --ScreaminEagle (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Civil War unknown soldier

I was gathering media in preparation for an improvement push on Tomb of the Unknowns and came across Image:Tomb of the Unknown of Civil War.jpg at the Library of Congress. Does anyone know any background on this memorial? Kelly hi! 05:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting off list

I figured that it would be use to split of the list of individuals buried at the cometary into a separate list so that is what I did. Let me know if this causes any problems. Remember (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personnel Issues

I respect the media coverage issue, but I don't feel that it is a major event in the life of the cemetery. There is a large amount of detail on a personnel issue. The conversation's between her and her boss, the change of title and the deletion of her blackberry account have nothing to do with the cemetery. It also sounds slanted. The mention of the issue of media access is appropriate, the rest should be edited out. --Boufa (talk) 20:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I've added some new information. The lawsuit is attracting congressional attention because it contains some serious accusations against the cemetery's leadership and the US Army. Cla68 (talk) 00:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A greater controversy than the meida access

The burial of M. Larry Lawrence was one of the greatest scandals to involve Arlington that I am aware of. Lawrence lied about his military service. In fact, he was a draft dodger. But because he had donated large sums to get Bill Clinton elected the White House fixed it so he could be buried in Arlington, even though no record of his service could be located. Eventually the scandal broke and he had to be rebuired elsewhere. This story in covered in Wikipedia under M. Larry Lawrence, but no link or mention of it is in the Arlington article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.135.210 (talk) 17:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Church-State separation

In light of recent controversies about crosses at the Mojave National Preserve, certain observers have openly wondered whether the crosses at Arlington National Cemetary could ever come under public scrutiny because of strict interpretations of Church-State separation, which forbid any kind of religious display on public property. This could perhaps be examined within the boundaries of the existing article. [1][2][3] ADM (talk) 09:00, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] On Hallowed Ground

The current History section is boring compared with what is revealed in On Hallowed Ground: The Story of Arlington National Cemetery, by Robert M. Poole and Robert M. Poole (Hardcover - Oct 27, 2009). I'm not a history buff. Will someone please pick up the baton from here? --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 06:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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