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I will be expanding this article, starting with info from Polish wiki article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 12:51, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
An armoured train named "Krajina ekspres" (Krajina express) was used during the war in Croatia (part of the Yugoslav succession wars) of the early 90-ies by the army of Republika Srpska Krajina (self proclaimed republic of Serbs living within Croatia that seeked to remain in Yugoslavia). The train was used succsessfully as a mobile artillery battery (some AA guns were also mounted) due to lack of danger from the air (Croatia then posessed only a few aircraft mostly converted ex crop dusters as bombers). It has been reportedly hit on few occasions with some Anti-Tank Self-Propelled grenades, but the damage was minor as most of the train was covered with thick sheets of rubber which caused the grenades to explode somewhat too early to do real damage. The train was finally destroyed by it`s own crew (so that it doesn`t fall into enemy hands) during the Croatian offensive "Storm" which overran the Srpska Krajina.
- Tnx for the info. Be bold and feel free add the info to the article! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 15:17, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- Respect to you and the brave Polish soldiers who were first to fight the ww2! I will add it, but I`m not really familliar with the legal stuff around here. The source I used is what I remember from the broadcast of one episode of program called "Manevarska Municija" (Maneauver Munnition in Serbian) aired by (then) Yugoslav TV channel "BK" some 8 or so years ago. It did feature some sequences of AA fire from the train (against some distant ground targets).
Veljko Stevanovich 01:20, 31. August 2005 (Belgrade time)
- Legal stuff is easy: simply don't infringe on other's copyright (i.e. no paste© or uploading copyright pictures, see Wikipedia:Copyright for details. You may also want to register before doing many edits, it is not obligatory but it helps both you (more tools) and everyone else (we know who is doing the edits). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 14:56, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Thnx for the support. I`m rather busy these days, but I am interested in participating, especially in expanding sections concerning Serbian history. I`ll register as soon I prepare some addition worth mentioning. Veljko Stevanovich 2. September 2005. 16:00 Belgrade time.
Could we move the list to a separate article? It really makes a mess of the table of contents in my browser, and this is standard practice in most AFV articles (see list of AFVs). —Michael Z. 2005-12-5 16:04 Z
- Sure, bo bold - it sounds like a good idea :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:59, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Correction: The armoured train sequences in the 007 James Bond film "Goldeneye" were in fact filmed partially on the Nene Valley Railway, near Peterborough. See http://www.nvr.org.uk/other/filming.php and partially in a studio near Watford. TiffaF 06:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Because of this, armoured trains have virtually disappeared since World War II, their function as an invisible deterrent now taken over by the submarine.
"Because of this, armoured trains have virtually disappeared since World War II."
I don't believe the trains were invisible or disguised (most, from my knowledge, were fairly overt in their existence) Their role as an "Invisible deterrent" is never touched on in the article. Most, if not all, comparisons of trains to submarines in terms of warfare or existence, are absolutely hilarious. -Chapparal 05:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I popped in a paragraph about the use of armoured trains as missile launch platforms during trhe Cold War; I'm going to try and add a picture of a Soviet missile train.Andyana 16:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC) EDIT: Done! Hope everyone approves of this addition!
- the article states "both USSR and the US had railway-based ICBMs by the late 1980s" I can find no evidence that the US ever built a prototype rail based ICBM. I have only seen models that mean they were considering it. Has anyone any evidence to show that the US built a full size rail based ICBM? Oxyman42 (talk) 00:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
How about this photo?
Holly Grove Miner Strike
Would be interesting to have something about how armored trains were used against civilians, like in Holly Grove, where armored train fired against tent camp of miners on a strike Feb. 7th 1913. --Ukas (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)