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[edit] Crazy Bus

Why does a search for "Crazy Bus" redirect here if Crazy Bus is mentioned nowhere on the page?

Does it really matter since no other articles link to Crazy Bus? No, it does not really matter.Mkdwtalk 01:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Crazy Bus...LOL...it's DW's favourite music that she torments Arthur with.Kbbbb (talk) 01:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Arthur sucks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.234.174.114 (talk) 14:34, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Languages

Don't you think that the show should have articles in other languages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.168.194.22 (talk) 07:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

It really isn't made in other languages, therefore I'm not too sure. But... be bold. Basketball110 02:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I`m pretty sure it`s dubbed in other languages... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angiex3-2 (talkcontribs) 04:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

It is dubbed to Hebrew in Israel. ~~

[edit] Arthur Parodies

What happened to the List of parodies on Arthur article?

It was likely deleted. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Or perhaps you botched the link, along with the spelling of the word "parodies" --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps if you have a comment to make you could first make sure it is useful. If not perhaps you should refrain from making it. 4.142.78.67 12:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)eric
The irony. --ShadowJester07Talk 13:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for Arthur fail notability guidelines, including the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. Might I suggest these articles are improved with real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Trivia, quotes and overly long plot summaries should be removed. You might consider merging any notable information onto the list of episodes or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. Gwinva 13:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Early TV special(s)?

Were there any animated Arthur projects before this TV series? I seem to remember seeing something, it couldn't have been any later than 1993. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 13:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

According to IMDB "Arthur appeared in a 1983 episode of the PBS show Reading Rainbow in an animated reading of the book "Arthur's Eyes" narrated by Bill Cosby. A 1988 Reading Rainbow episode featured an animated reading of the somewhat Arthur related The Bionic Bunny Show book narrated by Gene Klaven." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.150.52 (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Apocalyse Now?

"Full Metal Jacket (Episode 80 – The Lousy Week) In which the leader of an army of lice claims to "love the smell of hair gel in the morning" parodying the similar famous line delivered by Robert Duvall." This line is a parody of Apocalypse Now not Full Metal Jacket

Kevinbi2004 07:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Something Happened

Someone really messed this page up, look at the page to see what I mean. What do we do, do we just fix it? 63.27.99.56 01:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The funding fiasco

From what I can discern, the funding fiasco, (adding unsourced, unverifiable and basically untrue funding) is nothing new. See the most recent history. What's the consensus about semi-PP? I'm not a regular editor of this article, otherwise I'd just req. it myself, but I don't want to step on anyone. Yngvarr 23:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops, nevermind, I see an admin is already on it! Yngvarr 23:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I got tired of it. It's the same guy, he does it all the time, and he does it all through PBS Kids shows. Argh. Gladys J Cortez 02:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hefty Zoo Pals, funding "vandalism", and what's for dinner here at my house...

Okay, I have to admit here that I was completely wrong about something. Hefty Zoo Pals is, believe it or not, actually a valid sponsor for "Arthur". I've been reverting it as vandalism, in the same vein as our friend who keeps adding Pfizer and all the other unsourced info, but as NeilN has pointed out, if you take a look at the Arthur main page on the PBSKids website, it's there as plain as day [1]--it's at the far right, under the picture of the Tibble twins.

So to those of you who've added it and been reverted, sorry--my bad (though to be fair to me, once something's been removed, even for the wrong reason, it's the responsibility of the person who added it to prove on the talk page why it should be re-added--that didn't happen in this case, but that doesn't excuse me either.) I'll be more careful in the future, and in the meantime I shall enjoy my delicious dinner of crow and humble pie. Gladys J Cortez 02:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC

I have edited the funding years for some of the sponsors, they were incorrect before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.89.42 (talk) 22:57, April 6, 2008

First--thank you for actually saying something on the talk page, as we have an actual vandal who does this quite regularly and I would have pounced on this as another example, had you not said anything. Second: Where, exactly, does this information come from? I ask this not because I doubt you, but because it would be EXTREMELY useful to have an actual, citeable source for this data, to counteract vandal activity. (And third--please sign your posts, with the ~~~~ feature. Again--not to criticize; just makes it easier to follow talk threads, is all.) But mostly, thanks for bringing it up--it's GREATLY appreciated. Gladys J Cortez 10:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I have found some press releases and internet caches that only list Juicy Juice as a corporate sponsor, no Baby Gap or Polaroid. I have also found a taping of it I made, with it's original sponsors and only juicy juice was mentioned. Here is one of my resources

http://web.archive.org/web/19961225153834/www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/arthur/

I am going to change the years for baby gap and Polaroid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.89.42 (talk) 01:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Premier air date

According to [2], the show premiered in 1996. I've been seeing some dispute, in the edit history, over the premier. Yngvarr (c) 11:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and thanks for clarifying this; I got so mixed up between versions that I think I reverted to a vandalized version instead of a correct one. (oops!) It's hard to tell when one IP is vandalizing and another is correcting it, and which is the vandal. But now that I know it's 1996, that will simplify matters. Sorry for the confusion. Gladys J Cortez 15:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Nothing to be sorry about. Very easy to loose track! I saw the same thing, and was just on the verge of an undo when I figured I'd see if it was possible get the info straight from the source. Yngvarr (c) 15:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greg Bailey

his name is clearly linked to the wrong article.ReZerO (talk) 23:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abuse report filed for 69.19.14.xx

I am posting this on here, not as canvassing, but for disclosure. Also, the IP in question is dynamic and appears with different addresses, so they may not see any messages posted on their talk page, but maybe they will see the talk page here and start to communicate a little more.

Wikipedia:Abuse reports/69.19.14.xx

Yngvarr (c) 11:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PBS funding

Does anybody have any references to back up the information within the "PBS funding" section. I know PBS usually announces the show's sponsors before and after the show, but someone (not including vandals) seems to change the section one or twice every week. So, the section needs references. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Season One

It is stated in the article that season one will be released on DVD in "Spring 2009". There's no citation and I can't find that information elsewhere on the web. Delete? NeonFire (talk) 21:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tucker AND Tolon?

I believe that Marc Brown has two sons, Tucker and Tolon. At least that's what it says on the wiki page for Marc Brown. I also don't believe he has a daughter named Sarah, I could be wrong though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.145.64 (talk) 05:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


i don't believe marc brown has a daughter named Sarah, either. Marc Brown has stated he has three kids and Tucker and Tolon were two of them. Yet, his daughter's name is Eliza. Noliandynamite (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


I just edited the page. I have the link that proves my point but I don't know how to site the link. Here it is: http://www.kidsreads.com/authors/au-brown-marc.asp If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.145.64 (talk) 01:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Buster's Game for Cool People; unreferenced addition

This edit added "Buster's Game for Cool People", which apparently is a WiiWare game set to be released in 2009. I searched Google for this and found no results. It was done by an anonymous user. Do you think it should be left there? Does anyone know if this game is real? NeonFire (talk) 20:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't think it should be left there, which is why I took it out. :) My rule of thumb, after 18 months here, is: if it's unreferenced and contributed by an anon user, it's false until proven otherwise by a valid citation. Anon IPs who HAVE valid citations for what they're adding will most often use them the first time they add something.Gladys J Cortez 22:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
That might have been Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People. dogman15 (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] The storyline getting more serious?

Is it me or did anyone notice that the storyline is getting more serious? In the very beginning it talked about simple things like wearing glasses and getting a puppy, later on it talked about more serious and more complex stories like bedwetting and dyslexia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.77.81 (talk) 07:30, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, that may be because the writers realized that kids deal with really complex stuff, even at seven and eight years old--sometimes ESPECIALLY at those ages! Unfortunately, unless there's a verifiable citation in independent media that confirms that, there's not really a good way to incorporate that info into the article; lacking a citation, it will be removed as WP:OR. Gladys J Cortez 10:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


One thing I find particularly interesting is that Arthur and his family are aardvarks. I wonder why Brown decided to do this. I'm sure a lot of people have never even heard of aardvarks, let alone know what an aardvark is. Alloco1 (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think he chose aardvarks because they are awesome, but I think you will find the answer to your question here. RP9 (talk) 23:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.Alloco1 (talk) 20:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
It is kind of strange that Marc Brown decided to make Arthur and his family aardvarks but if you notice, all the characters on the show are animals. Like, Francine and Muffy for example, are monkeys. Buster is a rabbit/bunny. Although, some of the characters are hard to notice what sort of animal they are like Jenna, Binky, The Tibbles and others. Noliandynamite (talk) 22:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Funding or advertising?

Many of the entries in the funding section appear to be advertisements or other PR actions (whitewash?). I believe that the advertisements should either be removed (my preferred course of action) or placed in a section separate from the donations. Yartrebo (talk) 16:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I would support removal of the function section altogether. It's a source of insidious vandalism, edit warring, and so on. I've tried to remove these from other PBS articles, but the changes never "stick". Yngvarr (t) (c) 16:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

i dont get it what kind of animal was arthur?? all those years watching it never understood —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.221.140 (talk) 19:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

He's an aardvark; a-a-r-d-v-a-r-k :) --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  03:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect "created by" credit on the Article page

Whoever edited the program information in the sidebar of the article is incorrect, and the previous information should be restored.

"Created by Marc Brown" should read "Created by WGBH"

The series Arthur was not created by Marc Brown.

{{editsemiprotected}}

While Marc Brown did create the books on which the TV show was based, the television show itself was created by WGBH in Boston, spearheaded by Carol Greenwald. The show bible and pilot were written by Ken Scarborough, who developed the show for television, and who was head writer/story editor for the first four seasons. Attached is a YouTube video of the first season's credits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr8tzmv-QSQ

In the beginning, Marc Brown was a consultant for the series, but did not become an executive producer until much later in the series. (Arthur Writer1 (talk) 17:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC))

Yes check.svg Done We can't use that YouTube video as a reference because of copyright concerns, but based on my own quick searches, which turned up this New York Times article, what you say seems to be correct. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Getting semi protected access

{{Edit semi-protected}} I would like to link Robert Naylor to his wikipedia page Robert Naylor (actor) but I cannot since I am considered an anonymous user. Can someone else do it for me?

Thanks Winniep32 (talk) 22:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. By the way, you are not considered an "anonymous user" if you have registered. You have simply newly registered and as such still lack certain privileges. After you have made 10 edits, and have been registered for 4 days, you will be considered "autoconfirmed" and can then do many more things. This was designed primarily as a safeguard to prevent anonymous vandals from registering and easily bypassing protections of vandalized pages. elektrikSHOOS 02:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request from 198.147.175.203, 3 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change "Although the program is primarily produced by WGBH of Boston, the production of the animated portions of the show—which includes the writing and voice acting—is done in Montreal, Quebec, and South Korea" to "Although the program is primarily written and produced by WGBH of Boston, the production of the animated portions of the show— which includes the voice acting—is done in Montreal, Quebec, and South Korea." The writing is actually done in Boston at WGBH.

Please change "Beginning in Season 11, the "A Word From Us Kids" segment was replaced by a segment called "Postcards from You", where a couple of live-action videos sent in by young viewers were spotlighted per episode." "In Seasons 11 & 12, the "A Word From Us Kids" segment was replaced by a segment called "Postcards from You", where a couple of live-action videos sent in by young viewers were spotlighted per episode." Postcards from You do not appear in seasons 13-15.

198.147.175.203 (talk) 16:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Melissa Bush, WGBH-Boston

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Qwyrxian (talk) 15:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] voice cast needs revamp

I think they should be organized in tables by seasons vs characters. Yay or nay?Angiex3-2 (talk) 08:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I would rather prefer something wit bullet points. I think tables are too clunky for this kind of thing. See Scooby-Doo#Voice cast --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
That can work. I`ll get started on it. Also, I`ll be removing the Arthur`s Missing Pal cast because it was a one-time thing produced by a completely different studio...Angiex3-2 (talk) 21:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Arthur is not an aardvark ! He's clearly a dog!!! Or something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.162.11 (talk) 02:47, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Inacurate mistake

In the section Franchise under Home Media Releases the sentence "Season 10 - 13 are available to download on iTunes and Amazon.com." Season 14 is availible on Itunes so can someone please change the 13 to 14 cause I can't do it cause the page is protected. --Shehbaz100 (talk) 00:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)--Shehbaz100 (talk) 00:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Gross Inaccuracies in the Cinar Tax Evasion discussion

In the Production section (around ref [9]) where they discuss the Cinar tax evasion issue, please remove this sentence: "many of the producers of Arthur left Cinar, including Joe Fallon and Ken Scarborough, the head writers from season 1 to 4."

I would think that the person who wrote that Scarborough and Fallon left because of the tax evasion investigation should have to provide references that show (a) the American writers on Arthur were working under fictitious, Canadian names; (b) prove that Scarborough and Fallon were producers on the series; (c) prove that Fallon and Scarborough were employees of Cinar; and (d) prove that Fallon and Scarborough left because of the Cinar investigation.

They have not proved any of that, nor can they because none of it is true.

Neither Ken Scarborough nor Joe Fallon was ever made a producer, nor did either of them ever work for Cinar.

Employer: Fallon and Scarborough were employed by WGBH in Boston and reported to Carol Greenwald, Producer. Their reasons for leaving the show had nothing to do with Cinar's investigation. Scarborough left because he got a development deal at Henson. He turned the head writer reins over to Joe Fallon (because Joe wrote 31 of the first 60 episodes, so who better to do the job?) Joe was head writer for one season and then left to work on Between the Lions.

Producer Credit: A simple perusal of the credit scroll for any episode from season 1-4 would show that neither Fallon nor Scarborough were ever at any time given a producer credit. (If you look at Arthur's current credits, you'll see that Peter K. Hirsch (current head writer) doesn't get a producer credit either. http://www.pbs.org/parents/arthur/program/tv_credits.html, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169414/fullcredits#cast

The Cinar Investigation: The dust-up centered around allegations that Cinar falsely put Canadian writers' names on some of their shows (in order to get tax credits from the Canadian government), when in fact the episodes were written by American writers. http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/macleans/cinar-scandal

In the instance of Arthur, none of the American writers were given "fake" Canadian-citizen names. The American writers all used their real names and have all gone on to write on other U.S. shows. Fallon (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0266423/#Writer) went on to work on Between the Lions, Peep in the Big Wide World, Martha Speaks, Pocoyo, Curious George and a couple of shows at Nickelodeon. Scarborough (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0769095/#Writer), after the Henson deal, wrote on Saturday Night Live, Pocoyo, Between the Lions and is currently head writer of Martha Speaks. Kathy Waugh (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915291/) went on to become head writer for Time Warp Trio, Curious George, Peep in the Big Wide World, and Big and Small. Peter K. Hirsch (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0386535/#Writer) became head writer for Arthur, Time Warp Trio, and also wrote for Peep, Mama Mirabelle's Home Movies and Between the Lions. Dietrich Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1191098/) still writes on Arthur in addition to Pocoyo and Martha Speaks, Sandra Willard (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0929633/), Jamie Greenberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0338527/), I'm lousy at putting in code, but if you do a simple search on the Internet, you'll see what I'm saying is true.

Thanks for your attention in this matter.

--[[User:lilrayosun]lilrayosun]Lilrayosun (talk) 02:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request on 16 February 2012

On the right-hand sidebar listing the show credits, under "Production" please switch "Jacqui Deegan" from the "Producer" to the "Executive Producer" category. Ms. Deegan was Executive Producer for Seasons 14 and 15. Thank you very much.

Here is a reference. http://www.pbs.org/parents/arthur/program/tv_credits.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssdeighan (talkcontribs) 05:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Ssdeighan (talk) 22:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 01:21, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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