Talk:Ashley MacIsaac

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WE NEED SOURCES[edit]

Quite frankly, almost every word of this entire article falls under the second sentence of the 'biographies' box at the top of this page. Without sources, most of the information in this article should be removed, and will be, by me, some time next month. I'm giving this notice, and a bit of time, for the article to be flushed out by other editors, and hopefully, some of the 'urban legend' type information can be identified as such and removed. Thanks Aformalevent 16:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)aformaleventAformalevent 16:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed most of the Controversy section, except what was cited. I've heard many of those charges before, as well as one where he basically flaked on a tour, which significantly impacted his drawing power on later tours and his album sales, but those sorts of things need citations. If you need to see what the issue swere, [look in the history]. Argyriou (talk) 01:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

And thank you, User:Bearcat, for providing sources! Argyriou (talk) 18:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I also noticed that while everything was sourceable, the verifiable sources actually necessitated changing a few of the details (mostly around the time frame.) Bearcat 20:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I've added a bit of trivia about his distant relation to Jack White from the White Stripes. They're schedueled to perform together in a few days. Also added a reference for this, which seems to be one of few in the article.--142.162.56.157 18:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

What the hell do you mean "one of the few"? The article is referenced out the freaking wazoo. Also, I've had to fix your reference to "Glace Bay Halifax"; Glace Bay is nowhere near Halifax. Bearcat 02:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

MacMaster[edit]

The what of Natalie MacMaster? - Hephaestos 07:16, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Geez. There you go. oops. :)Hyacinth 07:22, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Thanks, I was like "son? student? brother? protege?" *grin*

Antigonish[edit]

Uh, Antigonish is NOT on Cape Breton Island.

Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! Hyacinth 11:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not that completist[edit]

I suppose he could be included in Category:Pederastic lovers, but I certainly won't myself. Samaritan 00:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

whoops[edit]

Sorry, Brian, I redid your edit...my jab was intended at the newbie whom you reverted as well. -GlamdringCookies 21:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

No prob. The newbie was right, though (despite the spelling) - someone had edited the picture itself into a pic of somebody else. I fixed the pic, then this page. --Brian Olsen 21:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ohhhhhh. Understood. Made a teensy edit to hide my always impolite and now obsolete meanness to the newbie. -GlamdringCookies 01:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC) Small Text

Underage[edit]

I changed "underage boyfriend" to "significantly younger boyfriend," as "underage" is simply incorrect in this case if applied to sexual law (underage with respect to age of consent), and seemingly of dubious relevance if applied to the age of majority in other areas. If anyone has a better term in mind, shoot --Yst 07:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Image nominated for deletion[edit]

I just got a notice on my talk page that the image I uploaded (Image:Ashley_album4_web.jpg) has been nominated for speedy deletion, on the grounds that a free image could reasonably be provided. I don't plan on disputing this, but I thought I should mention it here - I really feel that notice should be automatically added to the articles using the image, and not just the uploader's talk page, but oh well. I don't have any way of getting a free image of Ashley, but if anyone who contributes to this page has a way of snapping a photo of him, you should probably do so! --Brian Olsen 18:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I added a new image which I found by searching on Flickr, this is an excellent way to locate images for articles as long as you make sure you only use images that are appropriately licensed ChrisTheDude 07:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Controversy Section[edit]

This is a badly written article. First of all, the paragraph about MacIssac's extended family does not belong in the overview section, especially when there's so little information about Ashley himself. And more importantly, the "Controversy" section is a mess. Not only is a mess, but other Wikipedia articles rarely have the controversies of an artist as the main bulk of the bloody article now, do they?

I sarcastically edited "In 1998, he included one hip hop song — including the word "fuck" and accompanied by hip hop gestures — in a performance at an all-ages venue in Fort Erie. Most press coverage of the incident gave the false impression that the whole show had been significantly more lewd and laden with swear words than it actually was." in hopes that someone would pick up on how extraordinarily strange this paragraph is. How was this a "hip hop song"? Was he rapping? Was there a turntablist present while he was playing his fiddle? Hype man? Some of his early songs, as this article clearly states, have a hip-hop influence anyway, so how was this particular evening different? Also, what the HELL are "hip hop gestures"? I'm vaguely offended by the image this creates, so you'd best explain it. Ever hear of "heavy metal gestures" or "R&B gestures"? Also, where does this press coverage come from and how do we know that, say, over 50% of total press was negative and misconstruing? How about a couple of quotes to back this up? Lastly, as I said at the beginning, this is just a badly written paragraph to begin with. Lewd AND laden with swear words-- so, what was lewd, if the swearing wasn't?

Okay, a couple more-- why are there trivia facts in his discography? Where is the main body of the article? Instead of a dozen short paragraphs about how controversial he has and what his plans are for the future, how about a proper article written about him and his evolution as an artist from his early professional career in New York to his present status?

--Ljosi (talk) 21:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree totally, this is a horrible article which currently focusses solely on the controverises surrounding Ashley, with pretty much no details of his successful musical career. I'll have a stab at rewriting it when I get a chance....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


Racist Slur incident[edit]

Why is my question being deleted!! This is a discussion page!!! Please dont just automatically delete, deal with the issue.

Back to the issue... what I wrote

"how can it be reportedly!!!. He yelled racist slurs, screaming at the audience." It was reported reported all over the Canadian media...I specifically remember it as being also being "racist slurs".

That's the reason why is was suck a big deal!!!. This is Canada. Entertainers dont get reported on for just swearing or even yelling obscenities. It became a big deal and a news item because he was ALSO specifically yelling racist slurs, in a probably PUBLIC SPONSERED EVENT (a news years concert, probably financed by tax payers ie the town/city, not just a simple entertainment venue or club.

Original statements "You dont get tours or appearances cancelled because of something that happens...and then continue to get ignored for over years. Some people just get off too easily!!!."

(In December 1999, MacIsaac reportedly screamed obscenities at a New Year's Eve rave in Halifax; the performance led to cancellations of concerts across Canada and a "media frenzy over his perceived downward spiral".) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starbwoy (talk • contribs) 19:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Starbwoy (talk) 19:47, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

If it was reported all over the media, provide links to the stories in reliable sources that covered the event. —C.Fred (talk) 20:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of his marriage in the article?[edit]

In February 2007 (either late on the 17th or early on the 18th, reports vary here), McIsaac married Andrew Stokes after 19 months of dating. See http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/music/story/2007/02/18/macisaac-wedding.html and http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=6c5e249a-5c42-46b8-be87-816a5150614d for more. Dysperdis (talk) 19:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)