Talk:Asociación Mexicana de Productores de Fonogramas y Videogramas

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Checking and reworking "Sales certificates" table[edit]

I would like to rework the "Album" portion of the Sales certificates table, because we've currently got a weird mish-mash of "Since" and "Until" across five rows of the section, and it's hard (for me, at least) to determine what thresholds applied when. I would like to replace the current notes with clearer phrases including "From" and "until". So first of all, I'd like to hear what others think of this idea, which would look like this:

Format Thresholds[1]
Gold Platinum Diamond Notes
Album 40,000 80,000 400,000 Since January 1, 2008
50,000 100,000 500,000 From July 1, 2003, until December 31, 2007
75,000 150,000 From January 1, 2000, until June 30, 2003
1,000,000 From January 1, 1999, until December 31, 1999
100,000 250,000 Until December 31, 1998

(Rest of table showing other formats omitted for this discussion.)

  1. ^ "Certificaciones [Certifications]" (in Spanish). AMPROFON A.C.

Now, apart from the idea, I have a concern about the content; my examination of the AMPROFON source leads me to believe our current table is incorrect. (We aren't helped by the tricky arrangement of AMPROFON's Criterios Para La Certificación De Ventas De Albumes table; I believe their third-last row should be at the bottom for increased clarity.)

Currently, we seem to say that albums received Gold awards at 100,000 until well after December 31, 1999, (like 2000, or maybe 2003, or something, but for me, it's not clear) after which the threshold was 75,000. My reading of the AMPROFON table is that the changeover occurred before 1999 ("Lanzamientos Anteriores A 1999," so we can say January 1, 1999). It seems pretty clear that the Gold/Platinum threshold change came before the Diamond change, but that's the opposite of what we show now. Maybe it's just my weak Spanish.

Can anybody check my work, please? My table above is my translation of what I thing the AMPROFON table is trying to tell us. Please chime in with whatever errors (logical or typographical) you see. Thanks. And, er, muchas gracias. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 13:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Reading Amprofon, it was 100,000 until Dec 31, 1998. 75,000 from Jan 1, 1999 to Jun 30, 2003. July 1, 2003 to Dec 31, 2007 it was 50,000. 40,000 from Jan 1 2008 on. The first change to Diamond occurred Jan 1, 2000. Your table structure looks fine.—Kww(talk) 03:28, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Update to the above[edit]

I've finally gotten around to updating the table, and I note as I do that the above discussion left out some info I've now seen. I believe the AMPROFON Web site I pointed to above has simply not been kept current (as of today), while the albums thresholds have been changed. The Top 100 charts (and the Top 2 genre charts) produced by AMPROFON and published as PDF files at greaves.tv include legends at the bottom with threshold information. For example, the Gold symbol is explained as: Disco de Oro. Certificación de ventas por 30,000 copias vendidas para lanzamientos a partir de julio de 2009. Certificación de ventas por 40,000 copias vendidas para lanzamientos de enero de 2008 a junio de 2009.

I take this to mean that the album thresholds were changed (reduced) yet again on June 30/July 1, 2009. The webmaster just hasn't gotten around to adding that tidbit yet. I'm basing my edits today on this combination of the two sources. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)