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- 1 History
- 2 Inverted pyramid vs. feature or narrative
- 3 Why Aren't The Names And Positions Of The People On The Board Of Directors Included In The Article?
- 4 Non-profit?
- 5 Christopher Newton
- 6 Taiwan(R.O.C.) Presidential Election Section
- 7 AAP
- 8 Paragraph out of place, sensational
- 9 "AP has been accused of bias and dissemination of American state-sanctioned propaganda on multiple occasions."
- 10 Nothing on governing structure and individuals with influence?
If it is true that "The revelations led to the demise of the NYAP and in December 1892, the Western Associated Press was incorporated in Illinois as the Associated Press. An Illinois Supreme Court decision (Inter Ocean Publishing Co. v. Associated Press) in 1900—that the AP was a public utility and operating in restraint of trade—resulted in AP's move from Chicago to New York City, where corporation laws were more favorable to cooperatives.", then the NYAP was not the Associated Press. However, in its own "History" page, AP states that it was founded in 1846, which conflicts with these statements, but is consistent with NYAP having changed its name to the "Associated Press". Hence, this Wikipedia article has a major error, which I do not have the knowledge to correct.14:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)188.8.131.52 (talk)
Inverted pyramid vs. feature or narrative
The AP has a separate dept. for news features and narratives. Led by such greats as Bruce DeSilva, the department has cranked out good features and narratives for papers that want them for many years.
The article wants us to believe that such a straight-forward style is novelty or endangered species. Neither is the case.
As a journalist who assists in editing my paper's wire (AP only) content, I would say that the majority of ap articles and alerts are still written as news articles (inverted pyramid and related structures like hourglass) in the ap's own style. A lot of AP content is borrowed from smaller daily papers and other news outlets as part of the AP's service agreement with these organizations. The AP then has a limited control of exactley what style of story it picks up (of course editing to AP style and satisfaction is always completed before the work is sent to other outlets).
So, the segment in this article mentioning a switch is needless as well as nonfactual. The majority of the AP subscribers would have a much greater need for journalism in strict style anyway. Just contact a news collecter like Yahoo or Google and see what kinds of stories they carry.
I think we need to see proof of this switch and impact of the bottom line. Please remove until such evidence is presented.
Why Aren't The Names And Positions Of The People On The Board Of Directors Included In The Article?
Because someone has to update that every year. There's a limit to what people want to do, and if you really need to know you could probably find that on their site. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I see the AP had net income -- aka profit after tax -- of $8.8m in 2009.
I don't think that the AP really behaves like a non-profit.. This may be it's "legal" business structure but the AP very often acts in ways that is directly competitive to its "members" and in fact its members don't provide the majority of news any longer. Tomtasget (talk) 13:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- No it doesn't and really isn't. When a lot of profit seeking entities create an entity like this and share its work product, that biz unit may not generate profit on its books but it's a flat lie that that enterprise isn't a part of the profit seeking overall operation of that industry association, it just isn't itself directly. The personnel, expressed viewpoints, management, etc. show very clearly what the real situation is here. This is a fairly large trope in American society, much less so of course at the time of the formation of the AP. Today the main form it takes is in some web/internet venture that claims to be non-profit, when what's actually meant is they're still trying to find a way to "monetize" it. The AP member papers had that worked out from the beginning with the inclusion of the APs work product in the papers they sell. The only bright spot in this lying to one's self is that it shows people have a vague clue there may be something wrong with profit (as opposed to earned income, productivity and other things it's conflated with). 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Non-profits may generate lots of income, amass wealth, and pay management or employees massive salaries. In general, they can't pay money to members of the governing board based on a proportion of the non-profit's income or liquid assets. A non-profit may be required to pay taxes, including federal corporate income tax, depending on the non-profit's activities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 18:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- And this source offers evidence that Newton was the victim of a hoax related to his work at the Justice Department. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 08:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Taiwan(R.O.C.) Presidential Election Section
This section does not appear to be on par with wikipedia's writing standards, nor does it appear unbiased. Perhaps it is original research? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 08:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
For those of us who cannot decipher asian languages, there is no way to know whether the majority of given sources are reliable or not. Indeed, it does not appear to be unbiased and it is poorly written. I've tagged it in hopes that someone knowledgeable on the subject will improve it (preferably providing sources in english!). If it can't be improved, it should probably be removed.--Polly Ticker (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Even if true, that section seems to describe trivial events that probably do not belong in this article. Minor controversies over news reports happen every day. I've moved the section here for reference in case anyone feels information in it should be salvaged. -- LWG talk 18:48, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
A series of reports from Associated Press was referenced by Liberty Times caused controversial issues in the presidential elections in Taiwan(R.O.C., Republic of China) during 2011 to 2012.[source needs translation] Some of these reports were cited by Liberty Times and D.P.P.(Democratic Progressive Party) to criticize its opponents, and others were cited reversely by the author of the Associated Press.[source needs translation][source needs translation][source needs translation] The key of controversy came from biased statements in the press which criticizes candidates or the ruling authority in an arbitrary perspective of the author, also the improper citation from non-proved facts or reports.[source needs translation]
One of the most controversial report was released on November 14, 2011 by the Associated Press and cited by the Washington Post and Liberty Times which describes the transition of attitude from the candidate of D.P.P. as 'into a Robin Hood-like heroine' but later translated improperly by Liberty Times into a title of 'the Robin Hood of Taiwan'.[source needs translation] The 'Robin Hood' title and the press were also cited widely in the election for the advertisement of the candidate.[source needs translation][source needs translation]
On January 3, 2012 another press titled as 'Taiwan president race darkened by spying charges' gave a biased statement with doubtful and non-proved description to the Nationalist Party which was doubted earlier by its opponents of the abuse of spying on them. Also, the report declared that senior civil servants in Taiwan still involves cutting corners, without any proved interview materials or citation.
An observation also accused that a journalist of the Associated Press in Taiwan which named as 'Annie Huang' and the D.P.P. were responsible for the biased press which might hurt the objectivity principles of the Associated Press already, where the content of press should be mind-independent and not for any group formed for partisan purpose. 
I see a news service called "AAP" is that the same as "AP". It is on articles that look like AP articles. Here are some. Respond on my talk page please. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:49, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Paragraph out of place, sensational
This paragraph (in the History section) is out of sync with the chonological narrative and makes sensational assertions without any specific evidence.
When the Associated Press was founded, news became a salable commodity. The creation of the rotary press followed shortly after which led to the New York 'Tribune installing high-speed press in the 1870s allowing them to publish 18,000 papers per hour. During the Civil War and Spanish-American War, there was a new incentive to write vivid, on-the-spot reporting leading to the Graphic Revolution. This occurred making man's ability to make, preserve and transmit images and print of these events much more feasible. Due to the fact that printing speed had been dramatically increased, this movement was legendary and has the Associated Press to thank for this achievement.
"AP has been accused of bias and dissemination of American state-sanctioned propaganda on multiple occasions."
Nothing on governing structure and individuals with influence?
I don't have much to add, came to wp to find out more, and there is nothing. This may be more important of other details.
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