Talk:Assyrian nationalism

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Merge[edit]

I have imported the "continuity" paragraph from [[names of Syriac Christians". The question of cultural continuity is a topic of Assyrianism (in the sense that Assyrianism needs to postulate continuity). The quotations seem to boil down to the situation that the question is unsettled and somewhat disputed, but that there does seem to be a good chance that some amount of Assyrian continuity may have survived in the lowest strata of society. It will obviously be impossible to gauge its precise nature or extent since there are no sources (it is impossible to get a clear picture of the lower classes anywhere in ancient history). --dab (𒁳) 10:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Assyrian dreams[edit]

The Assyrian people page is including all Aramaic-speaking Christians. and then the Assyrianism page says:

"Assyrianism is the ideology of a united Assyrian people, coupled with the irredentist quest for Assyrian independence."

So the information on here is telling people that all Aramaic Christians are 'Assyrians'. and then it is associating all of these people with 'Assyrianism', which as defined above is an "irredentist quest" for independance. This isn't true! not all Aramaic Christians are 'Assyrians' and not all that have this ideology of 'irrendentist quest'. This has been written by some Assyrian nationalists! I think that the page which includes all Aramaic Christians should be called Syriac Christians rather than 'Assyrian people'. Not all Aramaic Christian have this Assyrian ideology. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 13:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE COMMENTS

It has been mentioned in the article that many christians from Syria (excluding the Al Hassakeh region) and Lebanon do not accept an Assyrian identity, and that Assyrian identity is pretty much found among Iraqi, Iranian, north east Syrian, south east Turkish, Armenian and Georgian eastern Aramaic speaking Christians. I think that is fair enough.

Time to split?[edit]

I think the section about continuity claims is making the article disproportionately long. Would anyone mind if I move it to a separate article and keep a concise mention here?--Rafy talk 00:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Content removed[edit]

Upon reviewing edits made by User:Qworty, it was noted that he removed this quote in 2009.[1] I will leave it up to the active editors on this topic as to whether it should remain deleted or be reinstated. Content follows:

According to Dr. David B. Perley, one of the founding fathers of Assyrianism, Assyrian is defined as:

When a person is of Assyrian blood, he retains his birthright, self-esteem, and the heritage of his fathers. It is for this very reason that he may be called a Jacobite-Assyrian, Nestorian-Assyrian, Assyrian-Presbyterian, or Chaldean-Christian. Calling someone a Jacobite-Assyrian should be no more amazing than calling someone else an Irish Catholic. It is a mere matter of hyphenated description, not a hyphenation or division. A hyphen does not divide; it unites. The use of the term Nestorian-Assyrian is the simplest way of designating a Nestorian, who comes from, or who has, an Assyrian background. The term Assyrian is one single unity. The approach of this oneness of all Assyrians regardless of their religious adherence is through the avenue of blood, and through the majesty of common memories. Religions is a faith acquired and is changeable. Nationality is one's flesh and blood; it is his total nature. Even death cannot undo it.[1]

Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ Aprim, Fred (2005). Assyrians: The Continuous Saga (in English). United States: Xlibris Corporation. ISBN 1413438571. OCLC 58448793.  cited from back cover