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Replaced Pano[edit]

I replaced the panorama taken from Lykkabetus hill with one from the exact same angle but less choppy. Looks much better.

Please replace photos in toolbox[edit]

Please put a photo of acropolis (larger than the previous,aphoto of the area and the city's seal.Thank you.

Added a template[edit]

I created and added a Landmarks in Athens template.

Location of Athens[edit]

Take a look at the red point showing the loc. of Athens in Greece, correct it

Article of European Temp record re-entered[edit]

Why was this removed?Article re-entered,since its important to mention that WMO gives it officially to Athens.

File:Dipylon-vase.jpg Nominated for Deletion[edit]

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File:Central Athens aerial view 1900.tif Nominated for Deletion[edit]

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This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

This is the result of some nosey-parker Germans trying to continue their domination of Europe. The claim is that images from 1900 are not public domain (even though the commercial copyright has clearly expired) and that there is some fictional photographer/artist etc whose intellectual copyright would be breached, since intellectual copyright in most European countries expires 70 years after the author's death.
Such a claim is not consistent with reality or law. It is some nonsense that wikimedia has dreamed up, and basically has the effect of preventing the public from viewing images that lie in the public domain. In this case, the PD image was very poor quality and required hours of graphics work to make into a useful image. The image is therefore a new copyright, and has been posted on wikimedia as such.
If you object to the legalistic nonsenses that they are getting up to, please go over to the page link and comment on the deletions page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.226.68 (talk) 12:41, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Update: I recommend boycotting wikimedia commons, and using Flickr. There is far more respect for your own copyright and other personal rights there. You will have to use the licence CC-by-SA in order to use any images from there over here on WP. 85.72.220.33 (talk) 00:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Climate data[edit]

When I read the Climate section, I see the sentence "Mount Parnitha creates a rainshadow for the city, as a result of which precipitation is typically lower than in other parts of the Balkans; for a typical comparison, Tirana receives over three times more rainfall and Shkodra about five times as much."

I do not see the logic behind this statement. If you want to compare the precipitation of Athens, you should compare it with other Greek cities. To compare it with 2 humid Albanian cities does not make absolutely any sense, because the casual reader will get the impression that Athens is very dry place in comparison to the rest of the Balkans which is NOT true: Skopje, Sofia and Belgrade receive comparable precipitation with Athens (skopje in particular receives even less, although deeper into the balkan peninsula). Even inside Greece, there are other cities that receive less precipitation than Athens, so the comparison made in that sentence is NOT typical (not to mention also the fact that it uses only Albanian cities the one of which is relatively unknown). If the author of this sentence wants to provide comparisons, he/she should mention what is happening to other Balkan capitals, that shows that Athens is not typically drier.

Moreover, it is NOT mount Parnitha that gives the rainshadow to Athens. Not to mention that there is not reference to that sentence. So I remove the whole sentence for now and unless the author provides some more "typical" examples for comparison and a reference on why Parnitha casts a rainshadow, the sentence should be removed from this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.218.253.49 (talk) 12:13, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Katharevousa in lead[edit]

Why is Katharevousa "necessary"? — Lfdder (talk) 14:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Because katharevousa is a variety of Modern Greek officially used until 1976. Ἀθῆναι is to be found everywhere in older Modern Greek literature and is still sometimes used in formal speach either as Ἀθῆναι or more usually as Ἀθηνῶν. All these it is good to differentiate them from Ancient Greek. Dimboukas (talk) 22:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Αθηνών has been integrated into Demotic like many other Katharevousa words/phrases. Nobody says Αθήναι. Modern Greek literature is not particularly relevant in English WP. — Lfdder (talk) 23:07, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
You didn't comment on the fact that Αθήναι is still seen. Moreover, if we exclude it, we leave no clue about how the city was called between 1830-1976. Dimboukas (talk) 00:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I did. Addressed under 'Etymology'. — Lfdder (talk) 00:47, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Change of photos of the article[edit]

Greco22 keeps changing the photos (extensively) of the article. Now we had a stable version of good quality photos that depicit satisfactory Athens. For instance the cityscape photo is great, as is important as well the photo of the coastline of Paleo faliro (before there was not even 1 photo showing Athens coastline). Athens is not only museums and churches, it has also a coastline, the key element that diversifies it from other European capitals. There was also a photo from the important Planetarium (unique of its kind in Europe in terms of technology). Now this user, erases all that and adds photos like the statue of Theseus with aircraft contrails in the background a disgusting non representative photo called "panoramic view" with some comments on non-existence of greenery n'stuff (no citacion). I think we should reach a consensus before datum user can revert so extensively a stable version. Thanks.Astarti34 (talk) 20:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to add or modify , for example if you think Palaio Faliro is necessary put it. Or if you want to remove something. Do not revert the edit cause we added new staff (Btw the pics are of the top quality if you look commons)

To express my view... a statue of Athena, which locates in Athens is more suitable than one from abrod. The temple of Hephaistus is the best preserved of all ancient, the temple of Olympian Zeus also is a major landmark. Now if you dont like the fact that Athens dont have so much green spaces, what can Isay, remove it Greco22 (talk) 21:32, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

OK i'll remove some photos of yours and add some. Some photos you added are OK...but let's leave it to consensus to decide.Astarti34 (talk) 21:42, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. Issue solved.Astarti34 (talk) 22:00, 12 October 2013 (UTC)