Talk:Augustus Pitt Rivers

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Name[edit]

Is it Pitt-Rivers or Pitt Rivers? I've seen both used - which did he use? The museum named after him isn't hyphenated. Also, the source I used to make the page on the Larmer Tree Gardens says it was a stipulation of the will that he change his name, and this page says he chose to do it in honour of his benefactor. Not quite the same thing. Which is right? Roisterdoister (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to be bold. After a check, it seems that all book titles quoted spell his name without the hyphen; the Museum is not hyphenated, the Salsibury Museum gallery named after him isn't hyphenated and I haven't found anything to suggest he hyphenated his name. I'm leaving his grandson etc hyphenated, as I don't know whether that was their preferred spelling. I'm going to move the page to Augustus Pitt Rivers. Roisterdoister (talk) 15:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Gazette search results[edit]

For Augustus Henry Lane Fox David Underdown (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Copied across from User:Craigy144's talk page[edit]

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Augustus Pitt Rivers[edit]

Hi - I've just looked in the history of this article and see that you moved it to a hyphenated version in August. The surname of his ancestors might have been hyphenated but as far as I can establish, Pitt Rivers did not hyphenate his name. The Museum in Oxford named after him, the gallery at Salisbury Museum and all the books written about him do not hyphenate it. I have changed it back to the non-hyphenated version. Do you have evidence for the hyphenation as used referring by or to him rather than his ancestors, who might have decided to introduce the hyphen? Cheers Roisterdoister (talk) 15:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be inconsistent Nomination as High Sherrif is unhypenated, this War Office memorandum on his changed surname is hyphenated. However, the original Royal Licence to assume the additional surnames is definitely hyphenated [1]. David Underdown (talk) 15:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, what to do? Follow the name as it was officially given but, as it appears, was not used by him? All the biographies of him spell it without, and I assume the authors researched the matter in some detail. I can't believe a Museum named in his honour would get it wrong either! Isn't there some WP about using the name that the person themselves used? Roisterdoister (talk) 15:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I think we should move this discussion to the Pitt Rivers talk page. I'll copy all this across. Roisterdoister (talk) 16:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

End copy.Roisterdoister (talk) 16:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Bramham cum Oglethorpe,[edit]

Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.0.102 (talk) 14:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)