Talk:Autism Speaks

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Problematic text moved from article[edit]

In June of 2008 another autistic blogger was met with legal demands by Autism Speaks after designing a shirt critical of the organization. The shirt's claimed "Autism Speaks can go away, I have Autism. I can Speak For Myself." Autism Speaks complained to the third party vendor who manufactured the shirt that the shirt violated copyright and trademark. [1][2] The complaint was later rejected by the third party vendor. Autism Speaks claims to have not made this allegation[3] but communications with the third party vendor indicate they were made by Autism Speaks.

  • The first source is self-published and as such is only a reliable source for the author's personal views.
  • The second source is also self-published, and is not attributed to any author, and the entry ends with a note that says Wrong Planet isn't really sure what happened.
  • The next sentence (The complaint was later rejected by the third party vendor) is original research and doesn't match the letter printed in the second source.
  • The third source is again self-published and therefore reliable as a source of opinion, but the text above doesn't match what the source says.
  • The remainder of that sentence (communications with the third party vendor indicate they were made by Autism Speaks) is original research.

All in all, what we're left with is a series of confusing and dubious claims and counter claims, none of them made by reliable sources. This doesn't belong in Wikipedia unless its gets better coverage. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 14:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

That text has been added and removed before. I was considering removing it myself, but the person who added it was under scrutiny at the time and I figured that if the other people watching him didnt have a problem with that edit, neither did I. I have no firm opinion now. Soap 22:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Collection of links related to controversies over Autism Speaks[edit]

I've just now created a subpage of this talk page: /Controversy_links and filled it with a collection of links related to controversies involving Autism Speaks. While most of them are not WP:RS themselves, they may be helpful in identifying topics for the article, and determining the degree of notability of various issues. Additions are gratefully appreciated. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

WP:BLP concerns and weak sources[edit]

WP:RS indicates that blogs are not given much credence as sources for articles. WireTap is a shuttered blog, and does not appear to have a significant amount of editorial control. In any case, the Battleground: The Media reference is, as I understand it, republishing based off material from WireTap. The book is currently in the process of being removed from distribution by the publisher due to concerns over the book's accuracy, although no formal retraction has been issued at this time.

I think BLP indicates that such information, if contested and weakly sourced, should be removed. LFaraone 00:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

BLP does not apply to organizations. Please see WP:BLPGROUP. Henrymrx (t·c) 18:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Suppressing criticism yet again[edit]

[This https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Autism_Speaks&curid=22282057&diff=602212156&oldid=602208256] is a bad edit. 8-( Andy Dingley (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Criticism should be added only when they meet WP:RS. The first was a link to the talk page, second was to a Tumblr page. Neither comes close to meeting RS. Yobol (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Funny how the need to find sourcing is so easy to recommend to others, yet those deleting are always incapable of it themselves. Who are the autistic people on the board of Autism Speaks? The claim that there aren't any (and there aren't) is removed as unsourced, yet the counter claim that nameless autists are represented is unchallenged, despite being (per Popper) the one that's obviously sourceable, if only it were true. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:35, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Um, what? If you find other poorly sourced material, feel free to remove that as well. I just removed a blatant example of poorly sourced material, added to the lead no less. If you want to add that material back, you might want to read WP:BURDEN. Yobol (talk) 14:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merger: Light It Up Blue[edit]

The Light It Up Blue initiative/event is a fundraising campaign for Autism Speaks. It does not exist without Autism Speaks. Therefore, the information on Light It Up Blue is entirely within the purview of this article. Muffinator (talk) 00:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)