Talk:Automotive X Prize

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Removed text[edit]

Currently, the average mileage of American cars is around 20MPG, this is less than the average mileage of the Ford Model T, 25MPG.

According to the CAFE article, the CAFE calculation produces a figure of 24.6 mpg for 2004. However, this does not accurately capture alternative fuel vehicles and larger exempt vehicles, though it is unclear that larger vehicles are included in what is meant by "car". The Ford Model T article says the model T had a fuel efficiency of 13 to 21 mpg. So the claim above appears to be false. It also seems to be advocating higher fuel efficiency through selective statistics, ignoring the larger cargo and passenger capacity of modern cars. It's fine for the X Prize folks to be quoted giving statistics (though they should be fact-checked) but not for Wikipedia to be advocating for them. -- Beland 15:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Phoenix Motor Cars (all text removed) no longer appears on the PAIXP web site as a team. Apparently they withdrew from the competition, perhaps due to financial pressures related to their filing for bankruptcy. --Stephreg (talk) 02:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Myers Motors and Motor Development International (all text removed) no longer appear on the PAIXP web site as teams. --Stephreg (talk) 03:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate Team Entry[edit]

I'm pretty sure Brilliant Automotive team should not be listed twice. I believe the first entry is correct, as the town of Southfield, Iowa does not exist, as found by a Google maps search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.206.215.66 (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

There's a health facility named "Southfield Care Center" in Webster City, about 180 miles from Fairfield, IA. Also, the list isn't always alphabetized, as is true for many Wiki lists. What galls me is that Yahoo Maps kept on substituting "Southfields, NY" for "Southfield, IA"!
I alphabetized the list, and added some links. I think that 'internal' links into Wikipedia should take precedence over external links. Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 19:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

An Older Lists of Entrants[edit]

I found an MSNBC blog from last summer that lists entrants 'Green' Teams Go for Auto Race, probably based on a list from the official site. I am going to go through these lists and try to find some 'Missing Links', and put them here. Anyone else is welcome to help -- just log in, research it, and do it! Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC) updated Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Automotive_X_Prize#Competing_teams[edit]

We should be saying something about these entries. Our goal isn't to simply list items, but to actually say something about each of them.

Also, secondary references need to be added; the home page of a manufacturer isn't ideal.

E_dog95' Hi ' 23:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Timeframe?[edit]

And uh, WHEN exactly will the competition be held/cars be judged/prize delivered? Althepal (talk) 02:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh. I see. According to the official schedule, applications must be in by the end of Feb 09, main press stuff will be in Sep 09, competition will be May-Aug '10, awards given in Sep '10. Feel free to include this info in the article, guys. Althepal (talk) 02:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Results table anyone?[edit]

I have prototyped some tables for showing the current standings in the contest. Would this be of any interest to readers? Suggestions for formatting or other columns welcome. --IanOsgood (talk) 21:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Article title[edit]

   The name of the "Title sponsor" was added in an undiscussed rename by Phantomofthesea (talk · contribs). It was perfectly acceptable & clear w/o company name, and perhaps more common per example of article web pg and audio story from NPR (even tho they apparently take the sponsor's "ad-free" PR money!). "[T]he official name of the competition" is not what NC specifies. I've renamed it back.
--Jerzyt 01:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Notability of entries[edit]

Should all 111 entrants be listed, or should we only list those that actually progressed to the shakedown stages? I ask because I have twice reverted the SABA Motors entry (diff for last revert). The company, which doesn't have Wikipedia article of its own, entered the X Prize but decided not to compete because of the costs, so withdrew. On that basis I don't think they are notable enough to be listed. --Biker Biker (talk) 13:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

As referenced on this page, of the 111 entrants, only 43 made it through the stringent design review process. SABA was included with those 43. In addition, SABA attended the Detroit Auto Show in 2010, as part of the official x-Prize contingent. Numerous qualified media and news sources featured SABA, specifically, during that time. As you correctly suggest, SABA does not currently have a Wikipedia page of its own. However, it certainly deserves one, due to the large number of sources that have mentioned SABA, from 2009 to the present.
Regardless of the lack of its own Wikipedia page, Wikipedia's rules suggest that an entity or person should be included on the page that covers the event or subject with which that entity or person is most known for. Therefore, one would expect that SABA should be included in the X-Prize page first, and have its own entry only if its notoriety goes beyond that of the X-Prize. Brightpuma (talk) 02:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC) User: Brightpuma User_talk:Brightpuma

Criticism[edit]

Can following section be integrated:

As with all X-prizes, the foundation issued a very hefty cash prize (several million dollars) with this award. To explain this very hefty cash prize, the foundation directed to the fact that although the expandature is great, the technology the foundation gets back for the money spend in the prize, and the research done would be of far greater value. This would have been true if no 100 MPG-car or any really usable zero-emission engine already existed, however that wasn't the case as (perhaps oddly enough) 100 mpg cars were already present.

For example, from competitions such as the Shell Eco Marathon, average car weights of 45 kg and hence fuel consumption under 100 MPG are easily achieved (i.e. up to a fuel use of 2560 km/l )[1][2][3]

Verb tenses[edit]

Too many future tenses for an event which has already taken place... AnonMoos (talk) 02:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

  1. ^ "45 kg as average car weight in Shell Eco-Marathon". Wn.com. Retrieved 2011-07-17. 
  2. ^ Shell Eco-Marathon car weight[dead link]
  3. ^ mindfully.org. "Andy Green's 8000 mile/gallon car". Mindfully.org. Retrieved 2011-07-17.